Naw, the Pan-Slavic flag is like the Yugoslav flag with blue on top white in center and red on bottom.
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while its right that the fascists change their bonehead autfit to black block etc, somebody should remember that part of the antifa lifestyle itself originates in the hooligan ultra culture( the clothes). so those guys just wear what hooligans wear in poland...Well most people do because in Europe a lot of nazi and fascist groups have copied the black block outfit because they try to attract they 'frustrated youngsters' just like most antifa used to do. And it kinda works for them aswell because they do attract some of them through subcultural hardcore/metal scenes
In Poland the situation is really difficult, most antifascist are a bit nationalistic they claim to be antinazi anticommunist because of the communist occupation during the cold war. There are a lot of antinazi Polish patriot hooligans who will fight the nazi/fascists but they might just as easily attack 'red' antifascists.
Some friends of mine and me where planning to go to the antifascist protests in Warsaw but we lacked the money (we're unemployed working class heroes due to the economy) but I'm allready looking forward to the demonstration in Dresden! It'll be a reall party just like the last 3 years!! I'm sorry for my enthousiasm but I just can't wait!
and the hooligans in poland are 80/ 90 percent fascists, and those who are not, are still anticommunists. there are very less hooligans who are antifascists.
ps: yes,dresden will be awesome i think.
Naw, the Pan-Slavic flag is like the Yugoslav flag with blue on top white in center and red on bottom.
This is probably flag of Wisla Krakow football team guys
This is probably flag of Wisla Krakow football team guys
doesnt even look like it:
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
Nah I dont think football flags would be brought out into political demo's especially in Poland. They beat the living daylights out of each other about football over there.This is probably flag of Wisla Krakow football team guys
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All football hooligans came togheter to this. Some of the fascists are angry at the hooligans because it was them who started the riots and have made the demonstration look bad.
many hooligans had their club colours displayed on the day, alternatively it could have been Serbian flag as there were some Serb fash there and in general Serbs have a lot of sympathy amongst Polish right wing wankers.
Another vidoe from repelled attack on the blockade http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFmgZ9P-sM
statement by the blockade organisers
Once again the extreme right milieus tried to march through Warsaw. Nationalists and neofascists from whole Poland and from abroad came to the capital city, supposedly to demonstrate patriotism. They left terrified Warsavians, injured police officers, destroyed pavement, burnt TV outside broadcast vans, devastated bus stops and cars.
Already at 9 am around 150 right wing hooligans with sticks can be seen in Trzech Krzyży square. Around 11:30 another group attacks people walking down Nowy Świat who resist them. Police intervenes. First neofascists are arrested, while antifascist are pushed into Krytyka Polityczna cultural centre belonging to a coalition partner of the Agreement.
A legal rally, Kolorowa Niepodległa and the antifascist blockade are constantly attacked by groups of neofascists armed with metal pipes. The outside broadcast van of TVN is aflame, cars belonging to Polsat and Polish Radio are destroyed, participants of the Independence March attack Russian embassy and Belweder. “Patriots” in Konstytucji Square pull out cobble stones and attack the police. Until late at night “patriotic” combat groups wander around the city hunting for people. The only safe place was the antifascist zone created at Marszałkowska street – created jointly by Kolorowa Niepodległa and the antifascist blockade. It is hard to imagine what could have happened had the “March of Devastation around Independence” actually marched through the city centre. We did not let it happen.
Now, the organizers of the March, ONR and Młodzież Wszechpolska, counting on the society's short memory, are trying to dissociate themselves from their criminal henchmen. If it was not for the destroyed city, terrorized and injured people, we would think it is funny. But the insolence and hypocrisy of the leaders of the extreme right has long since ceased to be funny. The organizers of the March of Independence invited and brought to Warsaw the most aggressive groups of people from whole Poland. Nationalist activists and football hooligans came to Warsaw in the very same buses. They also wreaked havoc together. A right wing populist - Janusz Korwin-Mikke – personally incited to violence!
Some media came to the extreme right wing's aid manipulating public opinion, encouraging aggression for weeks. How effectively! Havoc and terror from dawn to dusk – editor Ziemkiewicz, editor Struzik – are these people your patriots?
We have warned for years – the radical right poses a more and more serious threat to this country! It seemed obvious that the long list of victims of nationalists and neofascists and racist attacks of last two months should suffice to understand the danger. Apparently not. Maybe today's events – the day of independence which was used to display brutal power – will help the public opinion, journalists, the authorities of Warsaw, and most of all the society to understand that the problem is serious and it needs to be counteracted.
Until it happens, we, antifascists of November 11 Agreement, will take to the streets, make blockades, stand and sit across the streets shouting “no pasaran!” We can see no other option – if not us, then who?
We would like to thank all Warsavians and everybody who came to Warsaw to stand in the way of the Brownshirt plague. It required a lot of sacrifice and a lot of determination. You were great! We will push them out of the city centre once again. Let's put an end to fascist marches under the cover of historical events! No pasaran!
The guy in the beige trousers at 0:32, was he boxing with the air?The master race, sent running
Never say, you weren't warned
When they come to drag you away
To silence the dissident hiding in us all
They clench the fist of ordained might
From which side of the barbed wire
Do you want to see your life pass by?
I think so. Other Serbian nationalists where out on show.
i am curious, i've heard previous antifa blockade were 10 000 strong in the past few years,but this year there was 3 000 if i understood correctly? How come?
It wasn't "antifa" blockade that was 10 000 people strong, but anti-fascist gathering nearby and big part of that gathering never took part in any blockades. Last year biggest liberal daily "Gazeta Wyborcza" supported the action, really trying to take control over it and steer it into nice, liberal directions with no confrontations. Then after that they withdrew their support when it became apparent for them that they cannot control the movement and also support for militant actions is bigger than they thought. This year they were appealing to people to stay at home then
So yeah, this year there were less people, but they were definitely all there to blockade. Less quantity, more quality I would say
Besides probably some people simply got scared off, with media whipping up histeria about riots for weeks before the demo.
Fascist movement
Fascist movement in PL, similary to leftist and communist is not well organized.
Unfortunately I would have to disagree, fash are pretty well organised.
I never understood why those colors are pan-slavic:
And I could go on and on...
was this march nazi only or was it nationalists/far right conservatives+nazis
AntiFa Action is the medicine!I dont know how people can be so stupid to follow Mussolinis ideas. I just wonder when this earth is going to change into an happy blue ball when there is no killing no war no suffering,no diversity,no rich no poor people.
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@Montag- not just neonazis, all sort of far right, conservative right, nationalists, fundamentalist religious nutters etc. plus some people fooled by their very serious PR campaign before the march portraying it as "patriotic". Well, lets just say that after this performance they won't be fooled anymore
1. There was large presence of football hooligans of various teams- suprisingly there weren't any interaction amongst them they were united.
2. Major riots were amongs football hooligans and police there weren't big fights between facists and police.
3. Media's were heavily attacked two liberal TV TVN 24 TV cars were burned out.
4. The major counterprotest against facists was organized by liberals. Presence of left (trots etc.) was really small. There was a lot of Antifa much of them not anarchist just antinazi Oi's
5. German Antifa was mainly arrested before riots around 1 km from the scene of the riots.
6. Media"s manipulated the view. German Antifa was compared using the war sentiment to facists even my mother sayied after watching tele that "german facists attacked Poles on their national celebration" (she is not well informed about polish politics).
7. I wouldn't either stand with facists either with liberal counterprotest either with antifacists that me as communist will treat the same as facist thugs.
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