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    Nothing other than the overthrow of the Bourgeois is progressive.

    Secularism w/out revolution is only letting the bourgeois redefine the discourse.
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    Nothing other than the overthrow of the Bourgeois is progressive.

    Secularism w/out revolution is only letting the bourgeois redefine the discourse.
    A socialist state cannot be non-secular. It can be non-Western, but not non-secular. Lenin believed in religious freedom but religion must not interfere with politics or become too powerful.

    Historically whenever Islamists (sometimes supported by the West) have got into power, communists have been murdered on a large scale. As a Marxist, I say I can co-operate with religious socialists, but at the same time I'm always somewhat wary of them, because our ultimate end-goal is not the same.
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    A socialist state cannot be non-secular. It can be non-Western, but not non-secular. Lenin believed in religious freedom but religion must not interfere with politics or become too powerful.
    I don't disagree.

    But I will reiterate getting caught up with obsessing over secularism, atheism, or whatever fun distraction you have to frame class conflict in a light that is about anything but class conflict is ridiculous.
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    But I will reiterate getting caught up with obsessing over secularism, atheism, or whatever fun distraction you have to frame class conflict in a light that is about anything but class conflict is ridiculous.
    I'm not the one who is obsessing over religion and the idea that there is a big "total cultural war" against Islam by the West...
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    I'm not the one who is obsessing over religion and the idea that there is a big "total cultural war" against Islam by the West...
    who said anything about a cultural war?

    when i say war on islam i mean full on murder, bombs dropping, and other hallmarks of imperialist war.

    E: i mean i guess it would be war ON a culture but
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    I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that that's almost certainly bullshit.
    How about honor killings?
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    Sharia Law allows, if a family member dishonors the family, to have said person killed to preserve honor. The vast majority of honor killings are against women and girls. This is not right!
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    Sharia Law allows, if a family member dishonors the family, to have said person killed to preserve honor. The vast majority of honor killings are against women and girls. This is not right!
    You dumbass, honor killings are not part of Sharia law. Honor killings are part of pre-Islamic tribal practices. Seriously, pull your head out of your ass, so far all you've been contributing is just ignorant, Islamophobic bullshit.
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    You dumbass, honor killings are not part of Sharia law. Honor killings are part of pre-Islamic tribal practices. Seriously, pull your head out of your ass, so far all you've been contributing is just ignorant, Islamophobic bullshit.
    but shari'a law in eastern canada and
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    Drunk...Muslim...?
    Yes, booze is haraam and yes, I still drink it anyway; not a saint mate.

    Sharia Law allows, if a family member dishonors the family, to have said person killed to preserve honor. The vast majority of honor killings are against women and girls. This is not right!
    Piss off with this rubbish, this is a myth and nonsense. Where in the world people get the idea that Islam permits murder is beyond me.
    And if he start to scream, BAWM BAWM, have a nice dream, a true mothafucka going out for the loot.

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    Drunk...Muslim...?
    "Not turning the other cheek... Christian... ?" It's not like all religious people follow all the rules all the time.
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    "Not turning the other cheek... Christian... ?" It's not like all religious people follow all the rules all the time.
    comrade i don't turn the other cheek most of the time but yet here i am
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    Isn't Sharia Law very widely interpreted differently amongst and such? Is it definitively laid out and absolute?
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    Democracy for Libya! And by democracy, we mean brutal theocratic dictatorship that offers cheap oil to the West.

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    Isn't Sharia Law very widely interpreted differently amongst and such? Is it definitively laid out and absolute?
    It's application comes in as many forms as there are silly sectarian labels on the left.
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    It's disappointing, but not unexpected.

    I think Gaddafi was a petty opportunist who sided with imperialists and I won't miss him, but the inherent hypocrisy in forcing a regime change like this is nauseating. If anyone expected anything other than Islamists to come in to power with the "democracy" of the 'Arab Spring' has head their head in the clouds.

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    Mr Abdul-Jalil went further, specifically lifting immediately, by decree, one law from Col. Gaddafi's era that he said was in conflict with Sharia - that banning polygamy.

    In a blow to those who hoped to see Libya's economy integrate further into the western world, he announced that in future bank regulations would ban the charging of interest, in line with Sharia. "Interest creates disease and hatred among people," he said.

    Gulf states like the United Arab Emirates, and other Muslim countries, have pioneered the development of Sharia-compliant banks which charge fees rather than interest for loans but they normally run alongside western-style banks.



    In the first instance, interest on low-value loans would be waived altogether, he said.
    Libya is already the most conservative state in north Africa, banning the sale of alcohol. Mr Abdul-Jalil's decision - made in advance of the introduction of any democratic process - will please the Islamists who have played a strong role in opposition to Col Gaddafi's rule and in the uprising but worry the many young liberal Libyans who, while usually observant Muslims, take their political cues from the West.

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    Isn't Sharia Law very widely interpreted differently amongst and such? Is it definitively laid out and absolute?
    There is differences in opinion on the various aspects of the shari'ah in the overall ummah (Muslim community) in it's practical application and specifics. There is four Sunni madh'habs or schools of fiqh (law) which are Hanbali, Hanafi, Shafi'i and Maliki (the one I subscribe too) and there is one school of fiqh in Shi'ism known as Ja'fari. There is indeed varying opinions and you also have to take into account indigenous cultural traditions, norms and so forth. Again you (not saying you specifically) can't just lump everything together when it comes to Islam, it's not some homogenous and or monolithic entity.
    And if he start to scream, BAWM BAWM, have a nice dream, a true mothafucka going out for the loot.

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    I already warned y'all about flames. I've seen one or two since my warning - one more and this thread is closed.

    Please keep it civil and we're all good
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    Democracy for Libya! And by democracy, we mean brutal theocratic dictatorship that offers cheap oil to the West.

    :/
    Exactly what is gonna happen unfortunetaly.
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