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Why are you and the party you support against storming parliament? Why do you see revolutionary acts as "destroying a demonstration"?
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
I am telling this for the last time.They attacked PAME,not the parliament.
WORKERS OF THE WORLD,UNITE!
LONG LIVE THE CUBAN REVOLUTION!
Because PAME defended the parliament you counter-revolutionary fuck.
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
And why did that happen? Oh PAME was protecting parliament. This is not that fucking hard though spinning in circles like you are must be.
If the wanted to act revolutionary,why didn't they also join our demonstrations and just have a peace demonstration?
Wow Counter-Revolutionary rhetoric never does change. I don't know whether to be amused or disturbed that you consider yourself a revolutionary.
Because they are revolutionaries who seek to destroy this system, not run it, which it is now blatantly obvious, is what KKE wants.
Answer my question, why are you, and the party you support, against the storming of parliament, a revolutionary act. Why is the KKE, and why are you, against revolution, and in favor of playing a docile role within capitalism by being the outlet through which workers can passively and peacefully stand around voicing their concerns to be ignored?
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
This thread has taken a strange turn. I am interested in FSL's statements on the topic.
Please don't throw "fascist" around so liberally. There are very real fascists involved in this whole thing, and the KKE may be a lot of things, but it certainly isn't fascist.
oh come on now, a peace demonstration in a class war? pame/kke had, from what i gathered, the power to take the parlament building and maybe even stoping the goverment in what it was doing in there. heck they would had been joined by the anarchists if they had done that. and they used that moment of power to fucking attack anarchist and handing people to the cops?
All i want is a Marxist Hunk.
It is true that labor produces for the rich wonderful things – but for the worker it produces privation. It produces palaces – but for the worker, hovels. It produces beauty – but for the worker, deformity. It replaces labor by machines, but it throws one section of the workers back into barbarous types of labor and it turns the other section into a machine. It produces intelligence – but for the worker, stupidity, cretinism.
Wer hat uns verraten? Sozialdemokraten!
Because storming the parliament is nothing more in my opinion,than pure vandalism.If you call this revolution,then it is the easiest thing.Do you consider revolution something easy?
Bolsheviks stormed the winter palace...vandals or revolutionaries?
YOU THINK A PEACEFUL DEMONSTRATION CHANTING SLOGANS IN THE STREET IS "REVOLUTION", MEANWHILE THE POLITICIANS INSIDE THE PARLIAMENT (WHICH YOUR PARTY DEFENDED) SELL THE WORKING CLASS DOWN THE DRAIN!
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
Don't write in capitals,it makes you undecent.I agree that most of the shitty MPs are against workers' power.I will tell it for the last time,they didn't have intention to storm the parliament but stop the demonstration.
Why the hell would they want to stop that demonstration?
Bullshit, the KKE are politicians, and they want what all politicians want, to hold political power.
Just like in 68 when the PCF and her unions sold out the workers and convinced them to go back to their jobs and abandon revolution, the KKE is trying to convince workers not to carry out revolution, but to patiently and in an orderly fashion channel their rage into backing the KKE so that they can "fix" things and negotiate with the bosses.
The parties of the left and the unions are doing exactly what they have always done, recuperating the struggles of the working class and mediating their rage.
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
Bingo. To sit their asses in parliament there needs to be a parliament.
It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins.
This is what happened.
Last week four of my friends went to Athens...three Germans, one Russian. To stay with friends to prepare for the demo. Two are ML and two are Anarchists. The MLs went to the PAME/KKE demo this morning. They went there because of the call out the PAME/KKE made yesterday and because of obviously they have ties with a lot of MLs in Greece.
The other two linked up with Anarchist friends. And they went to the square. Where PAME/KKE already was. They entered the square on the side of the square. When they entered the square they were blocked by PAME protesters. THey had discussions and there was shouting and then they got attacked by the PAME/KKE demonstrators because they were not allowed to enter the square. Thats when violence broke out...in which one of my friends got a bleeding head wound.
This was corroborated by my two friends in the PAME/KKE demonstration. They saw this happen. They indeed stated tht PAME/KKE started the attacks. When the attacks and violence continued and the cops arrived a little while later they saw PAME/KKE supporters hand over demonstrators to the cops. They saw PAME/KKE talk to the cops. And they saw PAME/KKE allowed the cops to move unhindered to attack the Anarchists who tried to enter the south side of the square and even assisting them charging side by side with them.
As one of them is pregnant and things were very heathed. They decided to move away from the PAME/KKE demo. Greek friends brought the pregnant one home. She is ok. The other guy then, having witnessed what the PAME/KKE did, decided to join the anarchists, left communists and militants. Get this...this is a Stalinist who has rejected Anarchism for decades....imagine him fighting side by side with them against the KKE. THAT says more than any PAME/KKE statement and spin on this story than anything else.
He was wounded. Not badly. At the end of the afternoon they were forced to withdraw. Because of the incessant attacks by PAME/KKE and the police. Often acting in concert.
Everybody of the group has bruises. Some have wounds. All of them are badly beaten. They will go out later this evening to continue to target PAME/KKE and the cops.
His words, though translated:
The KKE acted like what I would have expected from Golden Dawn and the proto fascists. They have sold out the workers. They have collaborated with the burgeoisie in the most vile reactionary way. These are not communists. They are PASOK waving hammers and cicles. I have lost all sympathy for the KKE. Fuck them. Fuck the cops. Fuck the state. They have chosen their side. They should burn with it.
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What happened in Greece today is a disaster of epic proportions. Not only for the Greek workrs and population. Firts and foremost these strikes had the aim of protesting and preventing the austerity measures. THese demonstrations were for them. To save them from the economic disaster they are in and which will only deepen. What PAME/KKE did ultimately spells doom for this effort.
But secondly these demonstrations were a signal to the rest of the world. This had the potential to show the workers of the world how people could rise up and take power. To show who really is in charge. And that did not happen today. Today a faction chose to side with the burgeoisie. They attacked the militants and they openly acted in a counter revolutionary and reactionary fashion. That is the message they send out i the world today: you have no chance of changing anything. every effort you will make to take charge, to create revolution, to overthrow the capitalists will end in futility.
They fucked the workers and peope of Greece and they fucked the workers of the world.
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Does anyone else feel totally depressed about this? I was under the illusion that KKE were revolutionary,this is like finding out that Santa isn't real.
Act revolutionary?
Your party handed people over to the pigs because they wouldn't do as they were told.
Scum.
Picture of KKE/PAME supporters with their police comrades.
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
