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    Read my previous post,i edited it.
    Also yeah,well,all i can say is that i'm disgusted with someone who supports capitalism,especially in Russia.
    That is all.
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    Okay, we've established that you're unable to have a single coherent thought
    Was there mafia in Stalin's USSR?
    Was there oligarchs.
    Give me a fucking break.
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    Basically, in practice, communism takes what I earn and gives it to others who didn't earn it. That's exactly what socialism does, too.
    EHEHEHEHHEHE!! Gid wan. Capitalism does exactly that.
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    As if poverty, the mafia and oligarchs didn't exist in the USSR...

    It's really simple what happened. The citizens were poor under the USSR, and they didn't magically get richer with the collapse of their economy. What Russia is experiencing now is as close to pure capitalism as I've ever seen, and that's not a good thing. Both extremes are fucked.

    What I'm saying is, if Russia had developed into a capitalistic society instead of becoming the USSR, by now capitalism would have been regulated to sane levels and the country would have been prosperous.

    It's not rocket science.
    Yeah, prosperous like the US, right? Where it's citizens can't even find work, can't afford basic healthcare. Man, you sound like you grew up silver spoon fed. Can't you see that the majority of the working class are under attack around the world by greedy CAPITALISTS!
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    Was there mafia in Stalin's USSR?
    Was there oligarchs.
    Give me a fucking break.
    If there were mafiasos and oligarchs in the old USSR, they would be accused of being enemies of the state and shipped off to Siberia. (Which I approve btw, comrades!)
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    What's that? stalin killed 20 million soviet citizens?

    27 million died in WW2... so that comes to nearly 50 million dead...

    And yet the USSR still got the first person in space, and was a major superpower in the second half of the 20th century. Cool story bro.
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    You know what. i think it would be fun to not ban trolls for a while. spice things up a bit. ya dig?
    I said that months ago. I even made it a thread.
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    What's that? stalin killed 20 million soviet citizens?

    27 million died in WW2... so that comes to nearly 50 million dead...

    And yet the USSR still got the first person in space, and was a major superpower in the second half of the 20th century. Cool story bro.
    What difference does that really make? 27 million dead from war and 20 million killed for dissenting really aren't any different.

    And that's just dissenters- not wannabe capitalists or potential threats to the socialist state. No justification for that.
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    Yeah, prosperous like the US, right? Where it's citizens can't even find work, can't afford basic healthcare. Man, you sound like you grew up silver spoon fed. Can't you see that the majority of the working class are under attack around the world by greedy CAPITALISTS!
    I'm very much part of the working class. I earn my own money, pay my own bills and pay taxes.

    To the contrary, I see the world as under attack by socialists. Just take a look at the OWS movement. Don't get me wrong, the system is broken. But the stuff the socialists are proposing? Yeah, that's even worse. I may be wrong, of course, but based on what I see on OWS, Socialism in America is based more on feel-good ideas than actual economics.

    However, I am getting a little tired of arguing and I might as well use this thread to learn a thing or two. Can you tell me why you think communism has failed in the Soviet Union? I'm genuinely curious about your opinions.
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    Now you say that Occupy Wall Street is socialist? You are just a barrel of laughs my friend.
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    Now you say that Occupy Wall Street is socialist? You are just a barrel of laughs my friend.
    Whether or not it started as a socialist movement is a none issue as far as I'm concerned. Movements get highjacked, and that's what is happening to OWS. Did you read their proposed demands?
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    Whether or not it started as a socialist movement is a none issue as far as I'm concerned. Movements get highjacked, and that's what is happening to OWS. Did you read their proposed demands?
    Its a good thing if OWS is hijacked by socialism ya know... But hope is not lost for you yet. You are obviously just a worker misinformed by the right wing and under the capitalist "spell" as we would call it.
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    Can you tell me why you think communism has failed in the Soviet Union? I'm genuinely curious about your opinions.
    Have you ever heard of the terms "loaded question" and "meaningless drivel."

    Communism did not exist in Russia... how could it have failed?
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    Post Yes I support the Soviet Union.

    Yes I support the Soviet Union.
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    Whether or not it started as a socialist movement is a none issue as far as I'm concerned. Movements get highjacked, and that's what is happening to OWS. Did you read their proposed demands?
    I did read the list, and none of it demands the abolition of private property, common ownership of the means of production, or anything even remotely socialist.
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    Middle class Americans who idolize fucking Stalin of all people tell someone actually from Russia that they are stupid and an extreme nationalist for not being a fan of one of the most brutal despots of the 20th century. Yo Stalinoids, come at me bros.
    So fucking what?
    I have at least 3 russians friends who would smack ProudRussia in the head if he had said that shit to their faces. It doesnt really say anything.
    The fact is: most russians, to varying degree, actually have respect for Stalin and acknowledge the good things he did.


    Gosh, this guy is so stupid i just think my fuckin head inverted.
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    I'm very much part of the working class. I earn my own money, pay my own bills and pay taxes.

    To the contrary, I see the world as under attack by socialists. Just take a look at the OWS movement. Don't get me wrong, the system is broken. But the stuff the socialists are proposing? Yeah, that's even worse. I may be wrong, of course, but based on what I see on OWS, Socialism in America is based more on feel-good ideas than actual economics.

    However, I am getting a little tired of arguing and I might as well use this thread to learn a thing or two. Can you tell me why you think communism has failed in the Soviet Union? I'm genuinely curious about your opinions.
    First off, the OWS movement has nothing to do with socialism or communism. Secondly, the USSR post-Lenin was not communist as the workers did not control the factories. Post-Lenin USSR was alot like modern day China, a country run like a factory, owned by a few top guys and the workers have no say = sounds very much like capitalism, right?
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    Secondly, the USSR post-Lenin was not communist as the workers did not control the factories.
    The workers controlled the factories in 1924,but in 1925 they suddenly lost control over them?
    How about some evidence,eh?
    Also ever heard about War Communism,or how the Party ordered that workers who go on strike should be shot?
    Again,how exactly did the workers control the factories,in let's say,1923?
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    Most of Nostalgic about Soviet Union most of my times in Soviet Union.

    ProudRussian mentioned yes we had Mafia, Prostitutes and so on. As I remember my times mafia was invisible, when soviet union broke down mafia and prostitutes was visible openly, mafia with the guns.. Bribery and black market was of course. But it was secret police try to tackle this problem. But over all I should put more positives things about Soviet Education, community, village life and cultural life was much better than now.

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