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    I heard that all the cool communist organizations have topics with their remarks on this movement, so I figured I would join in the fun as well.

    http://www.socialistappeal.org/resou...for-the-crisis

    Originally Posted by Socialist Appeal
    The bold action of the #OccupyWallStreet protesters, inspired by the movements in Egypt, Greece, and Wisconsin, is capturing the imagination of millions of workers and youth around the world who are dissatisfied with the status quo. It shows that there exists in this country a layer of committed left-wing activists who are ready to challenge the injustices of capitalist society.

    The post-war prosperity of capitalism only delayed the inevitable crisis of the system. But now the crisis is here with a vengeance. On the basis of events and their own experience, the consciousness of millions of ordinary people is catching up by leaps and bounds with the reality of life under this exploitative and unequal system. As active participants in the movement, we in the Workers International League would like to add our perspectives and ideas to the vigorous discussions taking place in NY and around the country.

    First of all, we firmly believe that action must be combined with clarity of theory, analysis, and a political program to unite and mobilize the movement. We say: make the rich pay for the crisis of their own system! The richest 1% in this country own more than the bottom 95%. They will not give up their economic and political power without a fight, including an ideological fight. Those of us who wish to win that fight must challenge not only the capitalist system, but the ideology of its defenders.

    We must explain what socialism really is, not what the rich claim it is! Contrary to the lies and propaganda of the ruling class, the ideas of Marxism are a vital resource that we use to analyze society for the purpose of changing it for the better. The rulers of this country are always demonizing, discounting, and condemning Marxism. This alone is proof that there must be something about it that they don’t want people to know about. We say: check it out and make up your own mind!

    Many people searching for a solution to the crisis seek to “reinvent the wheel” in search of an as yet-undiscovered “revolutionary agent.” However, we believe that the revolutionary agent today is the same as it was when Karl Marx was around in the 1800s: the working class. This is not due to some romantic idea about what it means to be “working class.” It is because the workers—and especially those workers organized in unions—have the power to stop the machine. Not a wheel turns, not a light shines, and not a penny of wealth is created without the working class! If we are serious about bringing about real change, we must link up with the labor movement. New York’s powerful Transit Workers Union Local 100 has voted to side with the occupation. The Teamsters and the United Pilots Union have also voiced their support and sent members. This is a giant step forward. But voting is not enough. They must now mobilize the membership to increase the numbers down on Wall Street, and use their authority to push other unions to do the same!

    The mainstream media would have us believe that the Arab Spring was the result of a few Facebook and Twitter feeds, combined with a mass concentration of protesters. But we have to ask: can such an approach alone actually lead to the overthrow of the capitalist system? Can this tactic alone end big business’ dominance over politics and economics?

    In fact, it was wave of massive labor strikes that prepared the grounds for the Egyptian revolution. It was the power of the working class, not social media in and of itself, that brought down the tyrants in the Arab world. And yet, despite these heroic movements, the old regimes remain largely in place, and with them, the capitalist system, which is the root cause of the unemployment, austerity, and misery we all face. Something more is needed.

    It is not enough to demand the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall as some in the General Assembly have suggested. There are organic links between finance and industrial capital, the system cannot merely be regulated. Reforms such as labor and environmental protections won in the past by the workers must be defended and expanded, but we cannot limit ourselves to mere reforms within the framework of the existing system. We must dare to demand a complete overhaul; new and rational society based on workers’ democracy: socialism.

    The crisis is the inevitable result of capitalism itself, not merely its corruption. We in the WIL believe that as long as the capitalists class has political power, they will use it to retain their hold on economic power. Only socialism and workers’ democracy, based on public ownership and administration of the commanding heights of the economy, can begin to address the problems facing humanity.

    Protests are important in that they attract much-needed attention to a cause. But as long as the rich continue exploiting workers daily, their system keeps rolling along. They make money on the backs of the workers. Direct action, no matter how heroic, if isolated from the broader working class, is not enough to lead to victory. In order to win this fight, what is required is the power and collective action of the working class. So what then is the role of activists? We must be organized and oriented toward the working class and the youth, appealing to the most advanced layers. We should take these protests and the ideas of revolutionary socialism back to our high schools, colleges, unions, workplaces, and neighborhoods.

    Some people honestly believe that American capitalism can be reformed into a “kinder, gentler,” system. But as the crisis continues to unfold, it will become increasingly clear that this is not possible. As this happens, more and more people will become interested in politics. Because, far from abstaining from politics, young people and workers need more participation in politics, not less! Not the “politics” of the Republicans and Democrats, who both represent the interests of the capitalists, but politics that can truly challenge that dominance. This is why we fight for socialist ideas. This is why we call on the unions to break with the two parties of big business and to form a mass party of labor that can channel the tremendous energy of the labor movement and youth into real political change.

    Many in the movement reject having any kind of leadership. Others want to “build the movement” without first arming it with a political program. We believe leadership is indeed necessary, but that it must not be self-appointed or appointed from above. It must be directly elected, accountable, recallable, and represent the democratic will of the majority.

    As for building the movement, we believe the movement can only be built if it puts forward a clear set of ideas that can rally and enthuse people around it. A movement for movement’s sake will end up dissipating like steam without a piston box. However, even a basic program calling for jobs for all, universal health care and education, affordable housing, and demanding that the rich pay for the crisis of their system, would help channel all our energy into productive ends.

    Serious problems demand serious solutions. The #OccupyWallStreet movement is spreading around the country for good reason. The problems we face are the same everywhere: unemployment, cuts, and austerity. But it needn’t be this way! Another world truly is possible!

    If society were organized rationally and democratically in the interests of the majority, things would be very different. We could easily feed, clothe, house, educate, and provide quality health care and useful, productive jobs to everyone on the planet. All of this could be done in harmony with the environment.

    Capitalism is about individual gain and individual competition at the expense of everyone else. Under socialism, we would collectively provide for everyone’s needs, and as a result, everyone would have a chance to reach his or her true potential and contribute something meaningful to our society.

    The Workers International League is actively helping to build and spread the #OccupyWallStreet movement. We are eager to discuss with everyone who wants to learn more about the ideas we outline in this leaflet: the ideas of revolutionary socialism and Marxism. We see these ideas as a guide to action for the fundamental transformation of society.

    We look forward to working together to take this movement forward. Contact us for more information and to join us in the struggle for a better world!
    And for good measure, an article of additional hard analysis as well.

    http://www.socialistappeal.org/compo...must-join-them

    I found the analysis for be pretty decent, as it deals with the material basis for this movement and draws conclusions on its likely outcome as well. While these protests are likely not the spark for an outright revolution, they still do embody a rising class consciousness that will certainly have a progressive impact on the state of politics in the US. With this emerging sentiment of disdain for the current social order and its political institutions, youth will begin to seek an alternative to capitalism.

    In short, it's a great start which is indicative of much, but the state of the movement still needs to experience an influx of class conscious workers en masse before it will be able to truly take on a revolutionary nature.
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    In short, it's a great start which is indicative of much, but the state of the movement still needs to experience an influx of class conscious workers en masse before it will be able to truly take on a revolutionary nature.
    [FONT=Verdana]And those workers will have to understand that they will need to build their own workers states to defeat the capitalist states if they are going to take power. Of which your statement says nothing. [/FONT]

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    [FONT=Verdana]Instead we get this:[/FONT]

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    [FONT=Verdana]“Serious problems demand serious solutions. The #OccupyWallStreet movement is spreading around the country for good reason. The problems we face are the same everywhere: unemployment, cuts, and austerity. But it needn’t be this way! Another world truly is possible!”[/FONT]

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    [FONT=Verdana]Exactly what "other world is possible" without the rule of the working class and why will you not say it?[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana]And those workers will have to understand that they will need to build their own workers states to defeat the capitalist states if they are going to take power. Of which your statement says nothing. [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]Instead we get this:[/FONT]

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    [FONT=Verdana]“Serious problems demand serious solutions. The #OccupyWallStreet movement is spreading around the country for good reason. The problems we face are the same everywhere: unemployment, cuts, and austerity. But it needn’t be this way! Another world truly is possible!”[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]Exactly what "other world is possible" without the rule of the working class and why will you not say it?[/FONT]
    Originally Posted by Socialist Appeal
    If society were organized rationally and democratically in the interests of the majority, things would be very different. We could easily feed, clothe, house, educate, and provide quality health care and useful, productive jobs to everyone on the planet. All of this could be done in harmony with the environment.

    Capitalism is about individual gain and individual competition at the expense of everyone else. Under socialism, we would collectively provide for everyone’s needs, and as a result, everyone would have a chance to reach his or her true potential and contribute something meaningful to our society.
    The case for socialism was made rather clearly in this piece of literature, I believe. The alternative to capitalism, a proletarian state, is defended it concise terms, as is the need for a revolutionary movement to call for the interests of the majority.
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    i love that this sort of pieces are starting to surface. helps me a lot. thanks. I should translate this into spanish and hand it out..
    we need more revolutions and less "isms"
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    The case for socialism was made rather clearly in this piece of literature, I believe. The alternative to capitalism, a proletarian state, is defended it concise terms, as is the need for a revolutionary movement to call for the interests of the majority.
    [FONT=Verdana]“If society were organized rationally and democratically in the interests of the majority, things would be very different. We could easily feed, clothe, house, educate, and provide quality health care and useful, productive jobs to everyone on the planet. All of this could be done in harmony with the environment."[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]"Capitalism is about individual gain and individual competition at the expense of everyone else. Under socialism, we would collectively provide for everyone’s needs, and as a result, everyone would have a chance to reach his or her true potential and contribute something meaningful to our society.” [/FONT]


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    [FONT=Verdana]And absolutely nothing about the [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]revolutionary destruction of the capitalist state.[/FONT]

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    [FONT=Verdana]And that omission amounts to an attempted at a massive deception of the working class, leaving open as it does, the idea that socialism can be accomplished without that revolutionary destruction and its replacement with a workers state. It’s a fraud. [/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana]“If society were organized rationally and democratically in the interests of the majority, things would be very different. We could easily feed, clothe, house, educate, and provide quality health care and useful, productive jobs to everyone on the planet. All of this could be done in harmony with the environment."[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]"Capitalism is about individual gain and individual competition at the expense of everyone else. Under socialism, we would collectively provide for everyone’s needs, and as a result, everyone would have a chance to reach his or her true potential and contribute something meaningful to our society.” [/FONT]


    [FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]And absolutely nothing about the [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]revolutionary destruction of the capitalist state.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]And that omission amounts to an attempted at a massive deception of the working class, leaving open as it does, the idea that socialism can be accomplished without that revolutionary destruction and its replacement with a workers state. It’s a fraud. [/FONT]
    It called for the replacement of the capitalist system with one of socialism, how was it not calling for a revolutionary transformation of society? Just because it didn't say, in bold lettering, that we need to destroy the capitalist state immediately, you automatically opposed it as being reformist or what have you?

    You do realize that the situation in the US is not really open to such rhetoric or calls, right? We are not faced with material conditions which are prime for an immediate revolution, and this open literature reflects that. You need to build a movement of class conscious workers and revolutionaries before you can actually go to such lengths of direct and outright conflict with the capitalist state.
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    [FONT=Verdana] [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]This party seem to be raising the issue [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]http://www.revleft.com/vb/workers-occupation-movement-t162256/index.html[/FONT]

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    [FONT=Verdana]Why don’t you follow your own advice? “Revolutionary audacity can achieve everything"- Ted Grant. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]You sound like posturing reformists to me.[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana]This party seem to be raising the issue [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]http://www.revleft.com/vb/workers-occupation-movement-t162256/index.html[/FONT]


    [FONT=Verdana]Why don’t you follow your own advice? “Revolutionary audacity can achieve everything"- Ted Grant. [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]You sound like posturing reformists to me.[/FONT]
    Its a folly and meaningless phrase to just say "destroy the capitalist state" and in some cases counter productive and most importantly just plain terrible language. The IMT don't hide the call for a revolutionary transformation (which is a better word to use) from capitalism to socialism via a huge struggle of the working class (look at their website). But the article relating to these protests and all other articles have to be written within certain contexts, the occupy wall street movement and others like that are at a stage where they have no real leadership or goal in terms of an alternative, which is why the article made a point of declaring how much better a socialist society would be than a capitalism one. Your just ultra-leftist nitpicking here.
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    [FONT=Verdana]You sound like posturing reformists to me.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]Well we are talking about the "Entry at all costs" IMT here.
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    When Trots start calling you "ultra-left", you must be doing something right. They apply it to everyone. Of course it's true that consciousness is at a low level, but in that case, it's even more disgraceful that there are large sections of the left trying to artificially keep it that way because they are afraid of "getting too far ahead of the masses".

    It's also true that they do technically call for "socialism", but there are so many parties who do that. In most of these statements, two aspects are systematically avoided for most of the time: the question of class and the question of systems. This in a time when an increasing amount of people are actually beginning to ask these two questions. The idea of proletarian revolution is avoided and socialism is mentioned purely as "a fair society, acting democratically in the interests of the majority"; very general terminology that every single political party accepts as its fundamental principles. Even right-wing parties don't campaign with "Yay for bourgeois dictatorship" and "Greed = good".

    Of course, theoretically, someone occupying Wall Street right now could read these leaflets, could be inspired by the idea of a very vague socialism ("a fair society where we all work for the common good" or whatever), surf to the organisation's website, browse to the "Theory" section and realise that this organisation actually wants a communist revolution and not run away in disgust at being deceived and patronised at first, but that's more of a theoretical possibility than anything.

    The thing is that leaflets like this don't even completely avoid the issue, they do use terms like "revolutionary socialism", but it's all wrapped in layers of euphemism, vagueness and double meanings. Nobody is saying that you should fill them with complicated r-r-r-revolutionary rhetoric, but it's strange that a lot of left groups seem to think that there is some kind of contradiction between concretely expressing what communism and revolution means, and appealing to the masses. How can you expect to attract anyone to these ideas if you can't even articulate the liberating potential of it?
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    [FONT=Verdana]The last preface to the new German edition of the [FONT=Verdana]Communist Manifesto[/FONT], signed by both its authors, is dated June 24, 1872. In this preface the authors, Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, say that the programme of the [FONT=Verdana]Communist Manifesto[/FONT] "has in some details become out-of-date", and the go on to say: [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]"... One thing especially was proved by the Commune, viz., that 'the working class cannot simply lay hold of the ready-made state machinery and wield it for its own purposes'...."[/FONT][FONT=Verdana][1][/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]The authors took the words that are in single quotation marks in this passage from Marx's book, [FONT=Verdana]The Civil War in France[/FONT]. [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]Thus, Marx and Engels regarded one principal and fundamental lesson of the Paris Commune as being of such enormous importance that they introduced it as an important correction into the [FONT=Verdana]Communist Manifesto[/FONT]. [/FONT]


    [FONT=Verdana]Most characteristically, it is this important correction that has been distorted by the opportunists, and its meaning probably is not known to nine-tenths, if not ninety-nine-hundredths, of the readers of the [FONT=Verdana]Communist Manifesto[/FONT]. [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]We shall deal with this distortion more fully farther on, in a chapter devoted specially to distortions.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]Here it will be sufficient to note that the current, vulgar “interpretation” of Marx's famous statement just quoted is that Marx here allegedly emphasizes the idea of slow development in contradistinction to the seizure of power, and so on. [/FONT]


    [FONT=Verdana]As a matter of fact, the exact opposite is the case. Marx's idea is that the working class must break up, smash the "ready-made state machinery", and not confine itself merely to laying hold of it. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]On April 12, 1871, i.e., just at the time of the Commune, Marx wrote to Kugelmann: [/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]"If you look up the last chapter of my Eighteenth Brumaire, you will find that I declare that the next attempt of the French Revolution will be no longer, as before, to transfer the bureaucratic-military machine from one hand to another, but to [FONT=Verdana]smash[/FONT] it [Marx's italics--the original is [FONT=Verdana]zerbrechen[/FONT]], and this is the precondition for every real people's revolution on the Continent. And this is what our heroic Party comrades in Paris are attempting." ([FONT=Verdana]Neue Zeit[/FONT], Vol.XX, 1, 1901-02, p. 709.)[/FONT][FONT=Verdana][2][/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana](The letters of Marx to Kugelmann have appeared in Russian in no less than two editions, one of which I edited and supplied with a preface.) [/FONT]
    [FONT=Verdana]The words, "to smash the bureaucratic-military machine", briefly express the principal lesson of Marxism regarding the tasks of the proletariat during a revolution in relation to the state.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]And this is the lesson that has been not only completely ignored, but positively distorted by the prevailing, Kautskyite, “interpretation” of Marxism! V.I Lenin[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]And the 2011,US opportunists.[/FONT]

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