Thread: I was in Rome... or was I in a Fascist/Neo-Nazi town?

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    Back in my school days, there was a kid always going around drawing crude swastikas on the school walls. I had hell with cleaning them away, school wouldn't do anything and I just can't stand that bullshit. Sadly I couldn't give the guy a beating, as it turned out he was the school's universally reviled outcast.
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    have to be homest, I never noticed that when i was in rome
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    Some of the symbols could of been from Mussolini era?
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    You think that's bad? I live in a small town and I've seen fascist symbols on a children's playground... it disgusts me.
    I live in a pretty poor suburb, and when I was in primary school, probably about 7 years ago someone spray painted a swastika all over the side of one of the buildings facing the front of the school along with 'WHITE POWER'. It still seems kind of bizarre to me.
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    That is strange, I always thought of Italy as having a solid leftist movement.
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    I went to Florence and this is what I saw concerning this issue:

    There was a strong leftist presence...I even stumbled into a Communist rally/concert.
    Supposedly, days before I landed in Florence there was a rally from Anti-Fa, anarchists in Florence.
    There was a lot of leftist grafitti.

    From what I gathered...there are 3 provinces that are the most leftist: Tuscany, Marche, and Emilia-Romagna.
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    That's how it is in Japan to some extent as well. There isn't much graffiti, but the fascists are the loudest and brightest. Uniforms, big hinomaru flags, driving around the city blaring their propaganda with a column of soundtrucks. Making scenes to get attention from the press.

    But when the left rolls out thousands of people for a demo, there is only a handful of fascists on the sidelines whining and pathetically waving their flags around. And we're talking <100.

    They have to rely on smoke and mirrors because they don't have any membership to speak of.
    The right wing seems to be on the rise there, right? What with the Fuji TV protests and people waving WW2 flags and then with the Osaka elections.
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    The right wing seems to be on the rise there, right? What with the Fuji TV protests and people waving WW2 flags and then with the Osaka elections.

    Yeah, the Fuji TV protests. What a pile of reactionary crap. There is a lot of nationalist sentiment among the population in general, and the ruling class media as well as the right play into that. The Fuji TV protests are a good example - in the September 19th goodbye nukes rally the left was out and massed 60,000 people in the center of Tokyo. There was barely any media coverage and Yomiori Shinbun (right-leaning paper) downplayed it to 30,000 people and only showed pictures of people enjoying themselves, trying to paint it up as a festival.

    On the other hand, a few thousand right wing people protest against Korean TV and it gets heaps of press time. Actually, it probably got the press time because K-pop and K-drama are so popular here. I went to Korean town to get corn tea and seaweed for my wife and the place was packed with Japanese buying up Korean music and souvenirs.

    I wouldn't say the right is on the rise though. November 6th was the annual workers all out rally. The fascists know the date so they always counter demonstrate. We had about 6,000 people (including militant Korean unionists who came to Japan just for the rally) and they were waiting with the usual bunch of soundtrucks and imperial flags, but there is hardly any membership on their part. They were playing machine gun sounds from their trucks. I think the majority of the population is pretty disgusted with them.

    The government itself is very reactionary and neo-liberal, and there are liberal as well as right-wing elements in it. If you think Osaka is bad, look at the recent Tokyo elections - Ishihara got re-elected, and he's about as fascist as they get.

    How is it in Korea? I'd guess the same amount of nationalism and neo-liberal government. I've heard the labor movement is pretty militant there though.
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    mah you were in an Fascist/Neo-Nazi town im sure
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    if u go to san lorenzo u will see a different side of the city. while there are certainly a lot of "fascists" in rome there are a lot of "communists" too. mostly they are just kids who dont know much of what these words mean, and choose their politics according to their family, neighbourhood and what school they go to.

    for better or for worse we are far away from the days in the 70s and 80s where people would literally kill each other daily over politics.

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