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Is Irriducibili graffti still as common as it once was?
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we need more revolutions and less "isms"
I was this year in Rome. I saw 2 times a communist symbol, an office to fund the upcoming communist party and a communist nightbar. It's weird that some here say that there are many fascists and nazi's.
This is now a thread about your travels through Europe.
I was in Iberia in 2009, and in Madrid there's quite a bit of everything. I saw lots of hammers and sickles, anarchist As, and swastikas.
In Catalonia in both Barcelona and Valencia there were some As but a lot more nationalist scribblings in Catalan than anything else.
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I went to rome over the spring and Rome definitely had the most far right graffiti. In Sorrento, Florence, Venice and Pisa I saw several hammer and sickles, anarchist A's, a few in Pisa were advertising a general strike that was happening later in the month, and in Venice I saw one that said "Morte Al Fascio" (death to fascism)
However in the suburbs of Rome I did see "Zona Antifa" painted in red on the side of an apartment building
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I've been to Rome and i lived in Italy for years. Most of the so called "fascists" are just confused kids that draw around symbols that don't even fully understand. I've met some of "those" italians and they would claim stuff like "nowadays some good old mussolini would fix the way things are" or try to respond to any of my anti-fascist arguments with "yeah, but mussolini did also good things for italy". It's just ignorance talking, most of them is hardly dangerous and just like feeling "badass". Most of the people i knew are pretty communist tho.
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Two things. First of all, why are Italian Fascists using Nazi symbols? Shouldn't they be using the Fascio? Or is Mussolini not even popular among Italian fascists.
Secondly, as a big history buff it's sad to hear that one of the oldest and most historical cities in the world has such strong fascist elements, but I guess given it's history as the birthplace of Fascism, I shouldn't be shocked.
Well, up until 2 years ago, you would find 1 celtic cross for 99 anarchist/communist posters,graffiti, stickers etc. For the last 2 years you can see fascist graffiti in some places, mostly in a zone around Agios Panteleimonas neighborhood. I mean, the left can gather this
plus this
This is from Polytechnic school uprise celebration in 17 November 2010. The first is the leftists/anarchists/GSEE demo, the second is KKE.
Νow, the same annual big demo for the far right(about Imia incident in 2010), is this
They are greatly outnumbered, but they do exist. And now they are in Athens city council, since they got 5% in the local elections(20% in Agios Panteleimonas).
I was in the north east of Italy not too long ago (Bologna, Venice, Florence, etc) and they had some swastikas on the walls but they were mostly scrubbed over or had cross marks over them. There were plenty more leftist symbols on the walls that were untouched and a lot bigger in more open places. There's also a couple of places named after some communists such as Gramsci Plazza.
But then again, I did see a couple of Mussolini calenders and stuff.
That's how it is in Japan to some extent as well. There isn't much graffiti, but the fascists are the loudest and brightest. Uniforms, big hinomaru flags, driving around the city blaring their propaganda with a column of soundtrucks. Making scenes to get attention from the press.
But when the left rolls out thousands of people for a demo, there is only a handful of fascists on the sidelines whining and pathetically waving their flags around. And we're talking <100.
They have to rely on smoke and mirrors because they don't have any membership to speak of.
As much delightening that post was, I think it is important for us to not downplay the threat of growing fascist influence in Europe.
I think that photo of the fascist march you posted does seem a bit miscalculated. I monitor these events online, and I do think that the Greek fascists that go by the name of Golden Dawn drew anywhere between 5,000 and 10,000 marchers in january. Those are pretty big numbers.
I think it is just wishful thinking on our behalf that the far-right in 2011 is as insignificant as it was 10 years ago. They have managed to exploit a lot of peoples concerns, and are a growing influence, one which we must deal with somehow.
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You think that's bad? I live in a small town and I've seen fascist symbols on a children's playground... it disgusts me.
"It is not history which uses men as a means of achieving - as if it were an individual person - its own ends. History is nothing but the activity of men in pursuit of their ends."
- Karl Marx
Here I saw a skinheads back to the streets with the white power symbol sticker.
It made me feel fucking good to glue a smash fascism sticker where the fascists one was.
A la izquierda de lo posible
Then you should see our playground.
im going to Rome with an communistic T-Shirt will tell you if i came back alive
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I've never been there, but one of my girl friends was there last year and said that within a few minutes of going outside some guy blatantly grabbed her ass on the sidewalk in broad daylight (she proceeded to give him a nice sack tap). I mean, harassment happens all the time here too, but rarely so blatantly and openly do people actually get molested in public during the day. For all I know that could've just been an isolated incident though. I remember some guy tried doing that to some woman on a crowded subway last year and there was an entire subway car of pissed off men and women ready to kick his ass if he didn't get off at the next stop (which he did).
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They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
I didn't notice any cat calling or guys being overly aggressive with their flirting or i guess you can even call it harassing of women while I was there. I also heard before i visited that typical Italian men are like this.
Cuba on the other hand.. haha those guys are intense with their "cat-calling"
we need more revolutions and less "isms"
Haha, yeah, I used to live in a small town in NY once, too, and you'd see shit like "14/88" and "heil hitler" carved in school desks and such. I was like wtf is this shit
It's mostly just disillusioned kids who want attention, though, not hardcore nazi meatheads.
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