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I was in Rome... or was I in a Fascist/Neo-Nazi town?
(I hope I'm not offending any Italians here, this is just an observation on A BAD aspect of this city.)
I had the chance to spend 4 days in Rome. I stayed with a friend just outside the city. 35 minutes on their train. I was excited to visit and ready to explore... until I got there!
My first welcome to the city was using the toilet at the airport restrooms. Covered with swastikas and those crosses over a circle symbols? I know they stand for white power and I'm sure something else, Fascism?
Soon as I get off the bus and try to gather my belongings at their MAIN transport station.. "Termini" I began to notice the amount of trash on the side walks and also the on going graffiti most of it of Nazi and Fascist nature. I seriously felt a bit afraid to start walking to find my friends place...
As I walked the streets I couldn't ignore how much trash there was... and how everything had some sort of vandalism writing on it. Not even cool graffiti/creative stuff.. just pure trash of "graffiti".
When the Metro arrived I was also surprised how trashed the thing was. There are maybe about 20% of the metro wagons that are brand new but the rest are just gone to shit with markings and other vandalism. Do they not give a fuck? Also SO MANY POLICE! all kinds of different color uniforms.. how many types of cops do you need?
A couple of times I found my self on the metro alone with all this Nazi and Fascist graffiti and I did feel a bit unsure.. I was fearing that on the next stop some of these punks will get on the Metro and I'd be alone with them.
Have any of you ever been to Rome? Why is there so much right wing youth? I saw just a couple Antifa markings. In comparison to other major cities that I visited this where I saw the most Nazi/Fascist graffiti.
what are your thoughts?
we need more revolutions and less "isms"
I live in a small town so I wouldn't know but from what I have heard it sounds like a normal city anywhere on the planet to me.
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I wish Rome still looked the way it did during the Baroque period. Supposedly Rome in ACII: Brotherhood was modelled after it.
I wanted to go there for a trip, then looked at photographs on the web. Was severely disappointed.
I was in Rome about three years ago. Interesting, albeit horribly expensive by my standards, experience.
I've never seen a city so covered in bad graffiti before. And yes, a lot of it was fascist. I honestly don't know much about the current state of Italian fascism, but I'd say the high amount is more a sign that they're very dedicated to looking larger than they are. In my moderately sized and awfully Swedish hometown, there's always stickers from four, five Neo-Nazi and extreme right groups all over the place. Why? Because there's this one guy, literally one, who orders hundreds from each group and spends hours and hours going around putting them up to make it seem like the city is some kind of Nazi haven.
I had the chance to travel a lot.. well at lot for my standard of living. Rome compared to other European cities I had the chance to visit: (Paris, Reims, Barcelona, Valencia, Brussels, Amsterdam, London, Frankfurt, Helsinki and Tallinn)
Hast the most Fascist graffiti and dirtiest streets. I don't even think the Mexico City Metro is half as dirty as the Roman. I guess I had a bit of culture shock.
Maybe, like some of you said.. Fascism is not as big but they make it seem by over doing their "bad" graffiti.
we need more revolutions and less "isms"
I've been to Rome and I didnt feel that way.
I mean termini is dirty and full of trash but other spots on the city were cleaner.
I saw a lot of fascist party stickers but also anarchist and communist graffiti well maybe cause I am from a dirty city myself I didnt felt so shocked.
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I come from Mexico City and Los Angeles. So nothing really shocks me as far as "dirty goes". I guess I was not expecting Rome, a european city, prestigious and a heavy tourist destination to be at such low standards as far as dirtiness.
I saw SOME anarchist stuff. BUT compared to the fascist stuff it was outnumber like 2 to 10. Again this is my observation in comparison to other cities I've visited. I would also like to say that im just talking about the bad things here. Rome does have its beauty and that can be an other topic.
we need more revolutions and less "isms"
Well I slept in termini and I saw a lot of arabs almost 0 fascist propaganda.
Only some stickers inviting to a party fundraising.
The subway tough was the worst I ever been to. Small, overcorweded, slow.As well as the bus services always late and a lot of screamers.
Thinking I complain of the ones I have to catch.
Termini.. is a pick pocketers heaven lols
we need more revolutions and less "isms"
I was in Napoli nine years ago and my experience were similar. There was a lot of bad graffiti everywhere, and rubbish on the streets, and the most disturbing of all was the number of homeless people and other people that roamed the streets reflecting serious social problems. There were prostitutes on every street corner at night with greasy looking panderers shoving them around and seedy businessmen coming as johns', and there was the constant dreadful honking of the traffic that made it a struggle to sleep at all; and in the traffic during day there were people running betwixt the rushing traffic with buckets and wipers, cleaning cars as they passed hoping to get some change thrown at them.
On Corso Garibaldi there were beggars, countless, and all over the inner city dilapidated buildings that looked to be half-way to crumbling. On the Circumvesuviana commuter railway there were child beggars going around, and they would stop and hold their hands before other passengers.
Such things occur elsewhere, but there was something so opaque to it; elsewhere in most of Europe such terrible things to see would be fewer, but in Italy it seemed common place, and the crowds in the trams that always seemed to crash into badly parked cars that lined some streets seemed to pay no attention to the dread around them.
And the situation in Napoli is probably worse than in a lot of Italy in terms of social problems what with the enormous unemployment that has prevailed in the last 40 years. I remember seeing some Communist Party posters somewhere, but as far as I understand the Italian CP in Napoli and Campania in general have been complicit/in charge of (I think they've been in charge of Napoli a number of times with a majority or something even?) in allowing this sort of crimes to go unpunished which has fostered also the rise of organised crime in the area, much like what other social-democratic parties have done.
Though I can't remember seeing any fascist symbols in Napoli (I didn't really know how they looked at the time apart from swastikas). As far as I understand the situation with fascists is worse in parts of Rome and Northern Italy than south. There seemed to be a fair few communist propaganda pieces scribbled on walls here and there which was at least somewhat pleasant to see in the sea of social injustice and decay.
I have been few years ago in Sorento. We passed Train Station from Naples I so few nazi grafiti and I think RAPAS right there is worry about Italy, swinging to the right some kind of different police something like Angels I can't remember how they calling but they are against immigration.
That is strange, I always thought of Italy as having a solid leftist movement. I think it's pretty childlike to go about spraypainting the walls of a city. Unless it's to scribble out fascist propaganda.
There is this graffiti all over Serbian cities. Here in Novi Sad, I notice a fuckton of "Anti-Antifa" writing and a lot of nationalist/fascist bullshit. However, I also see "Antifa" and "SKOJ" (Union of Communist Youth of Yugoslavia) and Hammer and sickle writings.
For the most part it seems like a war over the wall space. Antifa crossed out over here, a swastika crossed out over there. Hammer and sickle, this and that. It really ruins the cityscape though.
A better approach I think was if the leftists organized and cleaned the walls around town so people ca see and say "those guy's are helping, while the others are just ruining our city".
I agree.. some grassroots organization.. a group of youth should get together and get rid of this filth.. at least try to. Because from what I saw.. no one is a rush to get rid of it.
we need more revolutions and less "isms"
I was telling my friend about "how cool" I though the Occupied Houses in Barcelona were. Mainly by anarchist and just anti-fascist groups
He was also telling me that in Berlin there's WAY MORE. So it made me want to go visit some day. Maybe things have changed dramatically since you went?
we need more revolutions and less "isms"
I was in Rome a few years ago and next to the Colosseum someone had written
"did six million people really die? something something zionist something" (some was crossed out, the rest I forgot).
Fact numbre uno: Rome is fucked up, but slightly better than Athens.
Fact numbre due: Italy fascists are very powerfull. And during these dark eras that we live in, they are more advanced than communists. But communists are way more deep rooted in the society as an american would even understand. Italy has both a huge fascist and communist history. Especially in times like the 70s, there were constant fights between them two, with even dead people.
Fact number tres: We need to help Italian Antifa if we can.
italy is an failed corrupt maffia state and an all-round embarrassment really, little wonder fascism is getting its feet on the ground again, strike that, considering that 1 coaltion party is neo-fascist, one is populist extreme right and the last is an ego vehicle for an P-2 member who tailor makes the law, the media and the political landscape to benefit himselfs fascism is already completely entrenched again there
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I tought Athens was a city full of anarchists at least for what I see on tv and full of leftist grafitis.
Oh, Athens has a lot of leftists. It's just that it's flooded with fascist filth as well.
Yes,Italy is known for neo-fascism.It's pretty strong there...
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