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    Default Russia's Putin says wants to build "Eurasian Union"

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    The article says that Putin has recognized the folly of decades of failed WTO negotiations.
    "A new centrist project does not have to repeat these mistakes. Nobody in this topic is advocating a carbon copy of the Second International (which again was only partly centrist)." (Tjis, class-struggle anarchist)

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    I thought that was the whole premise of the CIS or is he thinking 'bigger picture'?

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    I thought that was the whole premise of the CIS or is he thinking 'bigger picture'?
    CIS is not very strong, just more of a symbolic commitment among its member nations to continue working with one another in the post-Soviet. All that exists currently is a customs union among Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan that could serve as groundwork for a tighter economic union.

    What Putin envisions is a much tighter economic union, somewhat similar to the EU as he indicates with the naming scheme, to better integrate their markets. By extension he also wants to better solidify Russia's sphere of influence, especially considering the EU's attempts to court Ukraine.
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    I wonder if Mongolia will join this Eurasian Union. It was a mistake by all parties involved that Mongolia never joined the Soviet Union.
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    When I read "Eurasian Union" I was immediately reminded of the Eurasia from 1984...
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    When I read "Eurasian Union" I was immediately reminded of the Eurasia from 1984...
    Yeah no kidding. To make matters worse, there also exists in this world an actual region called Oceania. That's just like Oceania in 1984! And what to think of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations? Eastasia, maybe? Holy shit dudes, that's just like in 1984. Imagine a boot stamping on a human face... forever! In fact, just think of evil, pure evil!

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    Pan -Slavist empire as a result of this anyone ?
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    Pan -Slavist empire as a result of this anyone ?
    I highly doubt that, since pan-Slavism is deader than disco these days. Putin's supposed pan-Slavism is just an excuse for his imperialistic ambitions in East Europe. His goal is the restoration of a Russian empire with Warsaw-pact like satellite states.
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    He minus well call it "greater Russia."
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    Eurasian Union? Amusing.
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    Sorry to burst your bubble guys,but Putin is but a lackey of the West who on the other hand has a pretty good PR tactic.
    Let's just say:Libya,UN security council,abstaining from voting
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    Sorry to burst your bubble guys,but Putin is but a lackey of the West who on the other hand has a pretty good PR tactic.
    He isn't.

    Putin is a lackey of the native Russian capitalist class and whilst they may have shared interests with the Western capitalist classes they are not dependent on the West. That does not change the fact that Putin and the Russian capitalist class are as rotten, corrupt and as reactionary as any other capitalist class.

    Let's just say:Libya,UN security council,abstaining from voting
    How does that prove anything?

    The USA has dumped it's allies when it suits them. Manuel Noriega in 1989 and Saddam Hussein in 1991 are two good examples.
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    Putin is a lackey of the native Russian capitalist class
    Most of these guys either have huge shares in some Western companies or make money mostly on selling gas&oil to the EU...
    Either way,Putin can't go against the West.

    whilst they may have shared interests with the Western capitalist classes they are not dependent on the West.
    Nope.

    Manuel Noriega in 1989 and Saddam Hussein in 1991 are two good examples.
    The USA had no use for them anymore.Russia on the other hand had a lot to profit from a Libya that barely evaded a NATO aggrression!
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    Not a big fan of Putin, however, I'm a huge fan of pictures of him with captions.

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    No way a Eurasian Union will ever happen. I think Russia has done far too good of a job bullying their neighbors for them to want another warsaw pact.
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    The Russian bourgeoisie does from a distinct imperial power, and is beginning to compete with the western bourgeoisie. Given the russian bourgeoisie's rising power, and the crisis in the EU, a eurasian union is certainly possible
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    The Russian bourgeoisie does from a distinct imperial power, and is beginning to compete with the western bourgeoisie.
    How and in what way is it competing with them? By shutting down factories and increasing oil&gas exports (for the EU)?
    Given the russian bourgeoisie's rising power, and the crisis in the EU, a eurasian union is certainly possible
    USA has great influence over some Central Asian nations...

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