What is Maoism ?

[Homo Songun]

No, I think all of the claims you made are quite reasonable, except for the idea that social revolution - by which we mean the self-emancipation and -abolition of the proletariat as a class, by the proletariat as a class - is on the table right now in Colombia, much less that this process is being 'led' and 'directed' (if indeed it is even reasonable to speak in such terms about the social revolution against capital) by FARC pursuing a strategy of "people's war".

It is obvious to any serious observer that guerrilla war in Colombia's periphery has been moribund and made no decisive progress for decades now, and that it has become almost entirely consolidated into the countryside banditry and lumpenbourgeois international drug trade. It is even more obvious that no revolutionary situation exists in Colombia, and no meaningful force in Colombia is really poised to overturn value production and its attendant social relations.

Yes, I'm familiar with the fundamental tenets of your religion. I guess I was more interested in why you thought I would have to be paid in cocaine for acknowledging that the current large capitalists are more concerned Colombia versus some other place in Latin America. The basic situation being public knowledge.

[black magick hustla]

The people that actually have to live in those places certainly seem to give fucks about the situation they find themselves in. Which is not to say that discussing the latest in autonomist critical theory over vegan potluck with friends doesn't have its place too, though.

blahblahgblahblah some kkkanadian dude in ontario and his r-r-r-r-r- evolutionary credentials. certainly my vegan potluck (lol if it existed) is as relevant to anything as some stalinist artist wanker in motherfuckin ontario pushing the rrrrrevolutionary PR line for situations that he has no modicrum of influence. anyway alberta pride yo

edit: just because the admins always accuse me of trolling and flaming i am going to elaborate on my view. we have a totally different view of what being "pro-rev" means. to you, it is following certain groups of cadre that expouse a sort of enlightened revolutionary evangelism, in your case it being maoist theology. so to you its all about the good chosen ones with the correct line and theology fighting the good fight for the good of the masses. to me, the communist movement lies in the self-movement of the class as a class. for itself. asia is being swept by all sorts of wildcat strikes and mass proletarian unrest, from garment female workers in bangladesh, to the bloody shopfloor battles being waged by chinese and indian workers. of course maoists are nowhere to be found there, because maoism has nothing to do with the self-movement of the proletariat, and everything to do with bloody, gang warfare based (like almost all gang activity in the world) on the most miserable and marginalized sectors of society. the maoist story is always the same, a bunch of sociopathic dropouts from the local philosophy department with daddy issues going to the countryside and trying to make some peasants shoot some cops and soldiers, and manipulating the the worse aspects of peasant revengism for their political goals. no better than other gangs and bourgeois low lives who do the same thing. (see sendero luminoso and the sociopath presidente gonzalo for the worst aspects of maoism)

[JoeySteel]

Wow, if there's one thing that's a credit to Maoism, it sure gets the weirdos really riled up.

[black magick hustla]

Wow, if there's one thing that's a credit to Maoism, it sure gets the weirdos really riled up.

certainly not the dudes with usernames like "joey steel"

[mosfeld]

Still waiting for the Trotskyite/Hoxhaite/Anarchist/Left-Communist revolution. You can moan and criticize all you want until, though. By the way, I already know what you're all gonna say -- "blowing up trains/massacring peasants/genocide/famine isn't going to bring the revolution" or some other shitty slander. I don't even care anymore, you guys are by every definition of the word completely irrelevant.

[Smyg]

Still waiting for the Trotskyite/Hoxhaite/Anarchist/Left-Communist revolution. You can moan and criticize all you want until, though. By the way, I already know what you're all gonna say -- "blowing up trains/massacring peasants/genocide/famine isn't going to bring the revolution" or some other shitty slander. I don't even care anymore, you guys are by every definition of the word completely irrelevant.

Spanish Revolution.. ?

[black magick hustla]

Still waiting for the Trotskyite/Hoxhaite/Anarchist/Left-Communist revolution. You can moan and criticize all you want until, though. By the way, I already know what you're all gonna say -- "blowing up trains/massacring peasants/genocide/famine isn't going to bring the revolution" or some other shitty slander. I don't even care anymore, you guys are by every definition of the word completely irrelevant.

hows the peoples war going in iceland im sure you and your glorious cadre are fighting the good fight in the snowy winters of bjorks land

[mosfeld]

Spanish Revolution.. ?

Yeah man, like, what's up with this mosfeld weirdo for not remembering that...?

hows the peoples war going in iceland im sure you and your glorious cadre are fighting the good fight in the snowy winters of bjorks land

[Homo Songun]

blahblahgblahblah some kkkanadian dude in ontario and his r-r-r-r-r- evolutionary credentials. certainly my vegan potluck (lol if it existed) is as relevant to anything as some stalinist artist wanker in motherfuckin ontario pushing the rrrrrevolutionary PR line for situations that he has no modicrum of influence. anyway alberta pride yo

edit: just because the admins always accuse me of trolling and flaming i am going to elaborate on my view. we have a totally different view of what being "pro-rev" means. to you, it is following certain groups of cadre that expouse a sort of enlightened revolutionary evangelism, in your case it being maoist theology. so to you its all about the good chosen ones with the correct line and theology fighting the good fight for the good of the masses. to me, the communist movement lies in the self-movement of the class as a class. for itself. asia is being swept by all sorts of wildcat strikes and mass proletarian unrest, from garment female workers in bangladesh, to the bloody shopfloor battles being waged by chinese and indian workers. of course maoists are nowhere to be found there, because maoism has nothing to do with the self-movement of the proletariat, and everything to do with bloody, gang warfare based (like almost all gang activity in the world) on the most miserable and marginalized sectors of society. the maoist story is always the same, a bunch of sociopathic dropouts from the local philosophy department with daddy issues going to the countryside and trying to make some peasants shoot some cops and soldiers, and manipulating the the worse aspects of peasant revengism for their political goals. no better than other gangs and bourgeois low lives who do the same thing. (see sendero luminoso and the sociopath presidente gonzalo for the worst aspects of maoism)

So you've seen the Dancer Upstairs? Well, I'm suitably impressed with your piercing insight into the world of Maoism or FARC or whatever. Its all a formless gray blob of tank parades and gulags anyhow, right?

[Smyg]

Yeah man, like, what's up with this mosfeld weirdo for not remembering that...?

Just to clarify, I've never said anything to that effect.

[Per Levy]

Still waiting for the Trotskyite/Hoxhaite/Anarchist/Left-Communist revolution.

i could argue that there was a large anarchistic part to the ukranian revolution. but quite honestly that doesnt matter much. the point is that a real revolution will be a proletarian revolution not a anarchistic, leninistic or maoistic one. also please stop with this "ite" it makes you look silly.

You can moan and criticize all you want until, though. By the way, I already know what you're all gonna say -- "blowing up trains/massacring peasants/genocide/famine isn't going to bring the revolution" or some other shitty slander.

well that depends on, im not to high on people who want to kill "reactionarys" and "counter revolutionarys", wich to some of you mean every communist that doesnt agree with maoism.

I don't even care anymore, you guys are by every definition of the word completely irrelevant.

so are maoists in most countries of the world comrade, and where maoists matter they become irrelevant when they sell out wich happens from time to time dont you agree?

[Tifosi]

Still waiting for the Trotskyite/Hoxhaite/Anarchist/Left-Communist revolution. You can moan and criticize all you want until, though. By the way, I already know what you're all gonna say -- "blowing up trains/massacring peasants/genocide/famine isn't going to bring the revolution" or some other shitty slander. I don't even care anymore, you guys are by every definition of the word completely irrelevant.

Are revolutions now the result of ideological conflicts, not the result of material conditions? Doesn't sound like a very Marxist analysis of history.

[Ocean Seal]

A crock of shit with a red flag on it.

Insanity made in china

Honestly, if you're going to make a criticism of Maoism can you at least substantiate it with some information, rather than just posting obvious flamebait? Is it really that hard to stop yourself from making a post-which you do solely for the rep? What information did other users gain from these posts? If you can't clearly explain what Maoism is, or post a criticism, don't bother posting.

[ZeroNowhere]

Honestly, if you're going to make a criticism of Maoism can you at least substantiate it with some information, rather than just posting obvious flamebait? Is it really that hard to stop yourself from making a post-which you do solely for the rep? What information did other users gain from these posts? If you can't clearly explain what Maoism is, or post a criticism, don't bother posting.

This is OI, everything goes. We have no responsibility to improve the habitat of the decaying refuse of Revleft society.

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

Still waiting for the Trotskyite/Hoxhaite/Anarchist/Left-Communist revolution. You can moan and criticize all you want until, though. By the way, I already know what you're all gonna say -- "blowing up trains/massacring peasants/genocide/famine isn't going to bring the revolution" or some other shitty slander. I don't even care anymore, you guys are by every definition of the word completely irrelevant.

Like I said, I'm not ragging on Maoists just stating my stance theoretically/ideaologically, I respect Maoists and the current struggles they are engaged in.

[Agent Equality]

Are revolutions now the result of ideological conflicts, not the result of material conditions? Doesn't sound like a very Marxist analysis of history.

Thats because Maoists aren't Marxists duh

[ProletarianResurrection]

Or to be more precise, what are the characteristics of Maoism. Keep it short.
And yes, I know who and where came up with that, so skip that part.

Revolutionary Communism that is grounded in reality.

Its that simple.

[ProletarianResurrection]

blahblahgblahblah some kkkanadian dude in ontario and his r-r-r-r-r- evolutionary credentials. certainly my vegan potluck (lol if it existed) is as relevant to anything as some stalinist artist wanker in motherfuckin ontario pushing the rrrrrevolutionary PR line for situations that he has no modicrum of influence. anyway alberta pride yo

edit: just because the admins always accuse me of trolling and flaming i am going to elaborate on my view. we have a totally different view of what being "pro-rev" means. to you, it is following certain groups of cadre that expouse a sort of enlightened revolutionary evangelism, in your case it being maoist theology. so to you its all about the good chosen ones with the correct line and theology fighting the good fight for the good of the masses. to me, the communist movement lies in the self-movement of the class as a class. for itself. asia is being swept by all sorts of wildcat strikes and mass proletarian unrest, from garment female workers in bangladesh, to the bloody shopfloor battles being waged by chinese and indian workers. of course maoists are nowhere to be found there, because maoism has nothing to do with the self-movement of the proletariat, and everything to do with bloody, gang warfare based (like almost all gang activity in the world) on the most miserable and marginalized sectors of society. the maoist story is always the same, a bunch of sociopathic dropouts from the local philosophy department with daddy issues going to the countryside and trying to make some peasants shoot some cops and soldiers, and manipulating the the worse aspects of peasant revengism for their political goals. no better than other gangs and bourgeois low lives who do the same thing. (see sendero luminoso and the sociopath presidente gonzalo for the worst aspects of maoism)

Lotta presumption there.

However while Left Communists ignore the harsh reality of labour aristocracy and stratification, and cheer on struggles (nothing wrong in this in itself) of the most pampered workers as if they have actual revolutionary potential while most of the worlds population are in pretty much total misery compared to them its hard to take your criticisms seriously.

[Homo Songun]

Are revolutions now the result of ideological conflicts, not the result of material conditions? Doesn't sound like a very Marxist analysis of history.

Obviously Maoists are part of those material conditions. I think that was Mosfeld's whole point.

Now left communists on the other hand, I'd almost believe they were from some far off spirit realm.

[Agent Equality]

revolutionary communism that is grounded in reality.

Its that simple.

lol