Fascist elements of the 'Proto' Fascist Tea Party

[Astarte]

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Proto-fascism, or Fascism?

[Comrade-Z]

I was hoping American fascism would have more modern aesthetics at least, but whatever...yeah, sounds pretty fascist, especially the part about the military having their back or whatever. Which, I don't know if this guy is bullshitting or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if it were true.

[Misanthrope]

"We got your back"

Who pays the military? When they are threatened with the most severe of military justice they wont "have your back". It won't even get that far anyway, I hope. Anyway just because these guys are pro-military and pro-Christian, ect does not mean that the most deadly terrorist organization (America) is on their side.

These tools were stupid enough (or economically forced) to enlist. They will do as they are told for either money or because they are so brain dead they no nothing else then orders.

"we got your back against internet trolls"

[Commissar Rykov]

Why doesn't his fatass cross the firing line first?

[A Revolutionary Tool]

There definitely are fascist elements in the Tea Party, just look at William D. Johnson.

[redhotpoker]

There definitely are fascist elements in the Tea Party, just look at William D. Johnson.

The American Third Position isn't really looked to for leadership by any major section of the tea party the way breitbart is.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

The American Third Position isn't really looked to for leadership by any major section of the tea party the way breitbart is.

Well I wasn't really saying that he is the most influential Tea Bagger, just that he's proof that the Tea Party definitely has fascist elements. But he was influential in the beginning of the Tea Party in Southern California(according to him, I really haven't looked too much into that but he claims to have been one of the founders of the Tea Party movement in Southern California and he speaks at Tea Party events, which has to mean something).

[¿Que?]

Who's this guy? The name only sounds vaguely familiar. Oh well, maybe I google it

[Comrade-Z]

The main "problem" I see with the Tea Party (from the point of view of if I were a Tea Party person wanting to build the movement) is that I don't really see its basis for becoming a mass movement. It's too petty-bourgeois, with the emphasis on the word "petty." There's nothing particularly inspiring about it to appeal to American workers, no thousand-year Reich fueled by slavic slave-labor, no glorious resurrection of the Roman Empire--in other words, no particularly grand imperial project upon which to build a labor aristocracy (just presumably the maintenance of the status quo--I never really hear Tea Party people talk about foreign policy), and no (disingenuous) social compact to strengthen the "Nation"...it's just whiny brats not wanting to pay taxes to the guv'ment and wanting to cut social programs. At least, that's how I see most American workers viewing it at this point.

It wouldn't surprise me if it were suddenly and embarrassingly revealed any day now that the Tea Party is in fact a hollow shell of a movement that is in large part being propped up by corporate funding. I just don't see how its petty-bourgeois "populism" could resonate with very many people.

[Sasha]

Andrew Breitbart's Political Plan B: "We Have the Guns"

Posted by Goldy on Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 1:35 PM

If you think conservative muckmaker Andrew Breitbart's lunatic longing for civil war—"We outnumber them in this country and we have the guns"—is just the paranoid rambling of a lone nutcase, well think again.
A few years back a righty critic at the losing end of an intellectual ass-kicking, concluded our email correspondence with almost the exact same threat: "You can have all your fancy words," he wrote back curtly, "but we own all the guns." Indeed, far from outliers, both Breitbart and my pseudonymous pen-pal are reflective of the sort of violent eliminationist rhetoric that has long permeated the mainstream of far-right-wing America. Their whole Second Amendment fetish—their open-carrying, and their angry "we have the guns" posturing—this is a glimpse at the far-right's Political Plan B: If they can't beat us at the polls or in the public debate, they'll just shoot us.
Really.
I've never actually had anybody explicitly threaten to kill me, but along with the usual collection of anti-semitic slurs and accusations of communism, I've received my fair share of warnings over the years. Emailers, callers, and commenters have threatened to "beat the crap" out of me, or beat me to a "bloody pulp" (apparently, I'm filled with crap and pulp), along with sundry variations on the "I know where you live" theme. (Um, I'm in the phonebook, Sherlock.) After I wrote a particularly scathing post on the BIAW, one angry reader emailed me a copy of my credit report, along with the caution: "Builders know how to build houses, but we also know how to tear them down." And then there was the troll who rather poetically pronounced: "When The Sweep comes, I want to be the first at your door."
It's like my own, personal online Kristallnacht.
Implicit in all these threats, but absolutely explicit in Breitbart's delusional rabble-rousing, is the notion that the left's refusal to arm ourselves will ultimately prove our downfall. "They can only win a rhetorical and propaganda war," Breitbart insists, belittling the persuasiveness of our words and ideas. Whereas he and his fellow righties: "We outnumber them in this country, and we have the guns."
And in case you thought he was kidding, Breitbart clarifies: "I'm not kidding."
Yeah, sure, coming from a paranoiac poseur like Breitbart all this comes off as an empty threat; he's the kinda guy you'd expect to be peeing himself in the foxhole rather than out on the frontline. (Come on... take the first shot, Andrew... I dare you!) But don't fool yourself that there aren't thousands, if not millions, of his fellow right-wing travelers who fantasize about the opportunity to bag themselves a few liberals.
Yes, the overwhelming majority of such threats are empty. It is the bully, after all, who is usually the biggest coward. But just because the Breitbarts currently lack the means or fortitude to carry out their threats, doesn't make their political objectives any less offensive or dangerous. I mean, I hate to go all Godwin on you, but Breitbart sure does seem to be itching for a Reichstag Fire-like moment, and anybody familiar with the political rhetoric and tactics of 1930's Germany should be well familiar with what we're hearing from Breitbart.


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[Susurrus]

New priority for the left: get guns. Hopefully the Maoists will share(reference lol reference)

[citizen of industry]

If you feel the need to arm yourself against potential fascists, there is nothing stopping you in the US. You can go down and buy many types of rifles and plenty of ammunition. And you can go to the firing range and train yourself. Nurses working at abortion clinics arm themselves against religious fanatics.

That's why I don't have a problem with the right to bear arms.

Also - bear arms. Roar!!

[Susurrus]

[Jimmie Higgins]

It wouldn't surprise me if it were suddenly and embarrassingly revealed any day now that the Tea Party is in fact a hollow shell of a movement that is in large part being propped up by corporate funding. I just don't see how its petty-bourgeois "populism" could resonate with very many people.

They are trotted out by the corporate media before elections - remember the "Victory Mosque" that was a huge threat according to the tea-party and their more mainstream political backers? Yeah not a peep since the election. They are useful idiots for a corporate agenda at this point still and petty in all the ways you mentioned above - they will be described as "real America" in the media to stop healthcare, but if FOX or CNN or FreedomWorks (Koch Bros.) aren't promoting their events, generally they fizzle...

National Tea Party Convention Canceled Due To Lagging Ticket Sales



ABC News' Michael Falcone reports:
So much for the party. Organizers of the planned Tea Party Nation Convention, which had already been postponed once, announced this week that the gathering was being scrapped entirely.

The convention, which had been modeled after an event earlier this year in Nashville, was scheduled for Oct. 14 at the Palazzo Hotel. The Tea Party stars who were slated to make appearances included Andrew Brietbart, Lou Dobbs and Nevada Senate hopeful Sharron Angle.

Most of the early anti-war protests have been bigger than the tea-party protests, shit, LaborNotes and the ISO have conventions bigger than some of these Tea-Party conventions. The protests in Madison were regional, in the freezing cold, and still out-organized the tea-party (who tried to rally a "take back the state" counter-protest but had to run away from the capital building with their tails between their legs).

This is not to say that the far right is a joke that can be ignored or laughed off. First of all, there are real fascists organizing more openly through the Tea-Party and anti-immigrant events. Right now the Democrats use the tea-party to scare voters into supporting the Dems without them offering anything positive, and the Republicans use the tea-party to claim that the more aggressive side of the austerity agenda has a mass social base (when, even at 6% unionization rates, rank and file unionists could easily overwhelm any tea-party protest). But if there is a real surge of grassroots labor fight-back or radicalization or students or african-americans or immigrants, no doubt a section of the tea-party could become a real boots in the streets type fascists who use brutality to terrorize workers back into "their place".

[Jimmie Higgins]

As for who has the guns... the far-right may have more guns per-capita in their NWO bunkers, but there's lots of working-class vets who would know how to handle themselves and when working people come under attack, I think many will figure out ways of self-defense of the last-resort:



And what good is it in a social upheaval really if the military Generals "got your back" when possibly the GIs aren't really listening anymore - maybe Breibart can ask some Russian Tsars how that worked out for them... things didn't work out for Mubarak's back or his horse-riding Egyptian tea-partyish thugs either.


Also on a side note, he says that the media doesn't cover labor news or actions... as proof of the media being pro-labor!? Wow, when Michael Moore supports unions, it's proof of "radical domination!" in the media and when the media doesn't cover our side it's proof of... "radical domination!"

[citizen of industry]

[OHumanista]

Tea Party, the lovely mix of religion, fascism and libertarianism(right-wing), nothing can stink more.At the moment they aren't the threat they think they are but may as well become as the US gets more unstable. One plus on our said is the complete and mind-puzzling ignorance of their leaders on pretty much every issue on Earth...though that may actually attract some ppl too