Titoist restricted, Stalinist not ?

[RightWinger]

I'm actually not getting this.. whats the difference ?

[Imposter Marxist]

Titoists economically differ a lot from 'Stalinism', in that they believe in a type of Market Socialism that the Praxis school ( I believe ) was known for. 'Stalinists' advocated for heavy industry and the elimination of the market via planning.

For more information, i'd read Tito's book on the matter, "Workers Self Management" and for a 'Stalinist' response, i'd read http://www.marxists.org/reference/ar...avia/index.htm, This book by Enver Hoxha.

I'd be worth noting that "Stalinism" doesn't really exist. It is mostly used as an insult rather than a political ideology. Marxist-Leninism is the term most 'stalinists' use.

[RightWinger]

I shall research the Praxis school, thank you

[RightWinger]

...however I still don't understand why Titoists are restricted.. their beliefs seem to fit the rev-left criteria (acceptable leftist beliefs)

[Sasha]

titoists are not resctricted for being titoists, but sadly, like many state-socialists from easter-europe, russia and the balkans they often expres very reactionairy viewpoints on topics like abortion, homosexuality and feminism.
any restricted titoists, like the many restricted stalinists btw, probably got restricted after expressing reactionary opinions like those.

only auto-restrictions on political tendency are for:
all rightwing tendencies
maoist 3th worldism
primitivism
social democracy
juche, baathism, polpottism and similar reactionary systems

[RightWinger]

What exactly does reactionary mean.. is it like, counter-revolutionary ?

And what exactly is maoist 3th worldism ?

[Nox]

If you don't even know the difference between Titoism and Marxism-Leninism, it's no surprise that you've been restricted.

[StoneFrog]

If you don't even know the difference between Titoism and Marxism-Leninism, it's no surprise that you've been restricted.

They both ended up the same

[RightWinger]

If you don't even know the difference between Titoism and Marxism-Leninism, it's no surprise that you've been restricted.

You didn't read my nickname, did you ?

[Column No.4]

...however I still don't understand why Titoists are restricted.. their beliefs seem to fit the rev-left criteria (acceptable leftist beliefs)

Its because they arent up against the wall far left, theyre a couple steps closer to the centre.

[tir1944]

"Titoism" is just capitalism in disguise.

[Dumb]

titoists are not resctricted for being titoists, but sadly, like many state-socialists from easter-europe, russia and the balkans they often expres very reactionairy viewpoints on topics like abortion, homosexuality and feminism.
any restricted titoists, like the many restricted stalinists btw, probably got restricted after expressing reactionary opinions like those.

only auto-restrictions on political tendency are for:
all rightwing tendencies
maoist 3th worldism
primitivism
social democracy
juche, baathism, polpottism and similar reactionary systems

What's wrong with primitivism? Not that I'm one myself; I didn't even realize that was a tendency.

[tir1944]

What's wrong with Juche?

[Column No.4]

titoists are not resctricted for being titoists, but sadly, like many state-socialists from easter-europe, russia and the balkans they often expres very reactionairy viewpoints on topics like abortion, homosexuality and feminism.
any restricted titoists, like the many restricted stalinists btw, probably got restricted after expressing reactionary opinions like those.

only auto-restrictions on political tendency are for:
all rightwing tendencies
maoist 3th worldism
primitivism
social democracy
juche, baathism, polpottism and similar reactionary systems

Wow, primitivism?

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

The answer is obvious; Titoists are squares whereas 'Stalinists' are not.

Tito < Hoxha.

[EvilRedGuy]

titoists are not resctricted for being titoists, but sadly, like many state-socialists from easter-europe, russia and the balkans they often expres very reactionairy viewpoints on topics like abortion, homosexuality and feminism.
any restricted titoists, like the many restricted stalinists btw, probably got restricted after expressing reactionary opinions like those.

only auto-restrictions on political tendency are for:
all rightwing tendencies
maoist 3th worldism
primitivism
social democracy
juche, baathism, polpottism and similar reactionary systems

Then why is "punisa" not restricted yet? Just save a thread from him.

[#FF0000]

What exactly does reactionary mean.. is it like, counter-revolutionary ?

And what exactly is maoist 3th worldism ?

Maoist Third Worldists basically see the division between the developed and developing world as the most important thing. Basically, they don't see first-world peoples as capable of carrying out a socialist revolution, because Maoist Third Worldists pretty much put them on the level of the bourgeoisie. Understand?

What's wrong with Juche?

Literally everything.

[#FF0000]

Its because they arent up against the wall far left, theyre a couple steps closer to the centre.

still cryin

[Per Levy]

What's wrong with Juche?

everything

darn it : #FF0000 beat me to it

[Tommy4ever]

What exactly does reactionary mean.. is it like, counter-revolutionary ?

And what exactly is maoist 3th worldism ?

The word reactionary essentially means one who stands in the way of social progress. Try to ignore its mass use here, some lefties (and I am often guilty myself) just love to throw around jargon like that for some reason.

Maoist Third Worldism is a tiny sect, with a tiny following in the West (although, funnily enough, not the Third World). It bases its belief system on a bastardisation of a few quotations from Mao mixed with leftist sounding phrases and general stupidity. It claims that the world is not divided into classes, but nations. Therefore the wealthy nations are clear opressors of the poorer nations. Therefore all citizens of the wealthy nations are opressors themselves and all citizens of poorer countries are the opressed. This would mean that the conditions of the workers in the West don't matter at all.

Its not only silly, its anti-working class, anti-Marxist and to be frank, an embarassment.