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No. It is not.
It's a complete abandonment of what we know now and a return to the hunter gatherer societies without technology or science.
This has nothing to do with "basics".
There are degrees of primitivism. I actually wouldnt mind going back to the hunter gatherer days, but im actually a pretty hardcore outdoorsmen.
Getting rid of what primitivists want to get rid of means billions of people can't be fed and a lot of sick people can't get medicine.
Nobody said anything about this. You said bring everyone to zero and let natural selection take over, which is stupid, because mainly you think that you wouldn't be weeded out.
Anarcho-primitivists want a return to hunter-gathering. That is what that means. And being a hardcore outdoorsman doesn't change the fact that you can't support 6 billion people in a hunter-gatherer society. That is why we started to farm.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
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On your weekend?
Eh, it liberates every single individual to do as they please.
I most likely wouldnt be weeded out, however its not guaranteed. As i mentioned before, individual freedom from anyone and anything.
I never said we wouldnt farm, i simply said i dont recoil at the thought of primitivism. Plenty of early hunter gatherer societies farmed as well.
This is probably what I don't like the most about some primitivists, they always talk like they're going to be the ones on top of it and the collapse is going to be something that happens to other people.
But now we must pick up every piece
Of the life we used to love
Just to keep ourselves
At least enough to carry on
Because it requires the death of ~95% of humanity.
Yeah aside from the starving and dying slowly because pharmaceuticals aren't produced anymore.
Who has more freedom: dude who only has to worry about wages and bills, or dude who has to worry about finding enough roots to stay alive without being shot down by a ted nugent wannabe
No they didn't. That would make them agricultural, not hunter-gatherer.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
Things would change for everyone. I, however have spent enough time living off the land to make me confident enough to take it up full time. I never said i wouldnt help others in need or create settlements either.
Indeed, which is why that kind of primitivists are also referred to as eco-fascists. We mostly got the kind of anarcho-primitivists here that 'realise' mass deaths are going to happen as some kind of 'unfortunate collateral damage' if they get their way, though, which is one reason to why they only got restricted and not banned as per the guidelines. Don't ask me why..Originally Posted by Smyg
In general, (at least public) denial over what they actually stand for is typical to this crowd. Most of them on Revleft denied being primitivists until the end and used other labels in order to be able to post freely here. But that is a thing of the past now, in any case -- luckily.
That guideline was written when ridiculous ideas like 'primitivism' still had more support amongst the confused post-coldwar left crowd (parts of the early 2000's anti-globalisation movement etc). That has pretty much died away as the serious, classwar left began to revive again, in the current period. I'd say that it's unnecessary to even mention those people specifically as it is.
We could just restrict or ban them as they show up, but tbh they aren't even worth mentioning anymore.
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So what youre on about is sickness and disease? You do know that the vast majority of health problems today are caused by the industrialized crap people are eating?
Im not even going to respond to this because its irrelevant.
The North American aboriginee was a hunter gatherer but was also known to farm.
Getting rid of industry does not make diabetes go away in a person.
It's entirely fucking relevant because you keep going on about freedom.
I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
Collective Bruce Banner shit
FKA: #FF0000, AKA Mistake Not My Current State Of Joshing Gentle Peevishness For The Awesome And Terrible Majesty Of The Towering Seas Of Ire That Are Themselves The Milquetoast Shallows Fringing My Vast Oceans Of Wrath
It's anti-human. It is against human advancement as a collective which is inherently opposite to communist principles.
sing me to sleep then leave me alone
Primitivism will UNDOUBTEDLY cause the extinction of humanity, in two stages:
1.) 95% of humanity will die of Starvation
2.) Everyone else will eventually die, with no medicine/vaccinations for diseases, and nobody to combat future diseases.
What a fucking joke.
Whats the number one cause of diabetes, crappy eating. I dont feel sorry for gluttons who are suffering the consequences of their actions.
Not really.
Then tell my how these tribes in the jungles survive?
There are countless of diseases not caused by modern society, that is, genetic diseases.
Primitivism is something for suburban kids who romanticize primitive lifestyle thinking of it as some Pocahontas film.
Many have been wiped out by diseases/drought.
Of the ones that survive, they're just lucky that they haven't encountered any unfamiliar diseases yet.
Im aware of that, however people are having to suffer those disease today due to a lack of healthcare coverage. I can tell you im neither a suburbanite, a kid nor do i romaticize primitive living, i just know it can be done.
