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    What's wrong with primitivism? Not that I'm one myself; I didn't even realize that was a tendency.
    Anti-development, at times opposition to technology and against continuing advances and supporting regression of development and either voluntary or forced population-decreasing schemes and generally rely on a false romanticism of a past similar to those that admire tribal groups for living in what they manage to construct as "harmony with nature".
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    Anti-development, at times opposition to technology and against continuing advances and supporting regression of development and either voluntary or forced population-decreasing schemes and generally rely on a false romanticism of a past similar to those that admire tribal groups for living in what they manage to construct as "harmony with nature".
    Well i dont think it would be such a bad idea to return everyone to zero and let natural selection weed people out.
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    What's wrong with Juche?
    Just for a start: national supremacism, state-endorsed racism, monarchism, homophobic laws...
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    What's wrong with Juche?


    What's wrong with primitivism? Not that I'm one myself; I didn't even realize that was a tendency.
    Primitivist anarchism. I'd say they're kicked out just because of the horrible logical fallacy (using the internet to promote primitivsm).
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    Primitivist anarchism. I'd say they're kicked out just because of the horrible logical fallacy (using the internet to promote primitivsm).
    Hows it any different from leftists thinking peaceful protest will promote change?
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    Maoist Third Worldism is a tiny sect, with a tiny following in the West (although, funnily enough, not the Third World).
    This opposition between "the West" and the "Third World", as if many nations weren't both Western and Third World, on the other hand, is tantamount to ideological capitulation to capitalism, in that it excludes any failed or substandard cases of capitalism from the "successful West", and therefore equates capitalism with economic success.

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    Hows it any different from leftists thinking peaceful protest will promote change?
    Can't see any similarity. The correct analogy would be people making violent protests against... violence.

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    Well i dont think it would be such a bad idea to return everyone to zero and let natural selection weed people out.
    lol
    I'm on some sickle-hammer shit
    Collective Bruce Banner shit

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    Can't see any similarity. The correct analogy would be people making violent protests against... violence.

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    Isnt that what leftists do? The governments inflict violence upon the worker and in turn the worker inflicts violence upon the government to show that they wont be oppressed. Not saying that im opposed to violence as a means of liberation.
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    Whats so funny about that? The righ always says the playing field is equal, which it isnt, why not return everyone to zero and let us all start over, chances are the rich starve. Unfortunately we cant do this.
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    Primitivists are given the boot because they're all about the mass death of billions of people so we can run around in the woods until someone figures out how to farm again.
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    Whats so funny about that? The righ always says the playing field is equal, which it isnt, why not return everyone to zero and let us all start over, chances are the rich starve. Unfortunately we cant do this.
    What's funny about it is that I thought most people got over that dumb kind of thinking in high school when they grew out of their tripp pants
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    "Let natural selection weed people out" sounds a damn lot like social Darwinism to me.
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    "Let natural selection weed people out" sounds a damn lot like social Darwinism to me.
    I don't know what else it is. Figures No. 4 would be in favour of it, kind of explains some of this other thinking.
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    Primitivists are given the boot because they're all about the mass death of billions of people so we can run around in the woods until someone figures out how to farm again.
    No theyre not. Its a simple return to basics.
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    What's funny about it is that I thought most people got over that dumb kind of thinking in high school when they grew out of their tripp pants
    Any thought other than this sites status quo is dumb?
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    "Let natural selection weed people out" sounds a damn lot like social Darwinism to me.
    Who cares what its called, its returning everyone to same starting point.
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    I don't know what else it is. Figures No. 4 would be in favour of it, kind of explains some of this other thinking.
    Yeah, lets not bring the rich down to the level of the average worker.
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    maoist 3rd worldism

    Essentially the world is devided into three worlds:

    • The first world is made up by the imperialist countries: Think USA and RF
    • The second world is made up by capitalist countries that haven't quite managed to become true imperialists yet....think: most of continental Europe
    • The thirld world is made up of the poor, underdeveloped and (semii- or former colonial nations).

    The first and second world proletarians are collaborators with the burgeoisie in the exploitation of the third world and as such are considered irrelevant for class struggle and have become parasites.

    In fact the theory considers the only struggle currently existing to be the struggle of the third world against the other two. (!!!) NOT primarilly of the proletarians in the third world against the burgeoisie in the third world...but primarilly the third world against the other two.

    Class analysis is extremely limited, if at all there, it defines class based on comparative (not indexed!!) income. So a second world factory worker who makes € 1200 a month....is considered to be burgeoisie compared to a factory worker in the third world who makes €200 a month.

    Third worldism favors national liberation over communist revolution as its primary goal....and advocates 3rd world nations, regardles of economic structure, to work together on that basis.

    This is the short version of it.


    primitivism

    indicates not the art movement but Anarcho-Primitivism. A concept which states that the development of agriculture and sedentary society created structures of straticication in society and opened the way for hierarchy and alienation. To rectify this the AP's propose to abandon all technology not directly related to survival and not only to abandon industrialisation but turn it back to the hunter-gatherer societies of pre-historic times...though horticulture may have a role and even permanent agriculture in some wings of primitivist thought.


    juche

    This is the official policy of the DPRK. It states that the nation should be totally self sufficient and that its policy should be centered around the leader who is a father figure and should be obeyed by the people (corporatism). The awareness of the people is created by education on the ideas, culture, history and strengths of the nation (nationalism) and its people. It is accompanied by total self reliance on everyting...including putting the millitary first since the nation must be able to defend itself. People should be molded in ideologically in Juche. They should totally and completely represent the will of the people (anti-induvidualism).
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