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    Default Who is Ayn Rand and what is Randism?

    I got the impression she is some sort of libertarian but don't really understand what exactly Randism and her views are ...is it some sort of proto-capitalist anti state Libertarianism ?

    I am from the UK and so somewhat unfamiliar with libertarians.
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    She was an idiot. Basically her views were those of the most extreme tea-party people today. She died decades ago. She was against ANY sort of help for the needy, any government regulation of business, etc.
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    I do not understand philosophy very well, but I believe that objectivism is the thought that everything exists in its true form outside the human consciousness. I am not sure how this relates to her right libertarianism.
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    I do not understand philosophy very well, but I believe that objectivism is the thought that everything exists in its true form outside the human consciousness. I am not sure how this relates to her right libertarianism.
    If you want to understand philosophy, I don't think objectivism will leave a very good taste in your mouth. After all the time I spent trying to understand her philosophy, I just realized it's the most incoherent shit excuse for a "philosophical theory". She is literally the worst philosopher to ever walk the Earth. Seriously.
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    Basically, Randoids split things into being objective and subjective (seemingly at random). All subjective things are usually called idealistic. They add timeless elements to objective things when it comes to humanity like capitalism has always existed and human nature is one of greed and paranoia and stuff. Objective things is stuff that is outside of human conciousness or can be measured scientifically or something. Concepts like good and evil are subjective hence aren't real and hence should be done away with. Politically, they want to have no government influence on anything and want the market to run everything. They don't like collective bargaining either or democracy in the form of mass democracy because it's against human nature or something. They think these things impede capitalism and they believe that true capitalism has never existed, that it's being held back by governments, that if only they were allowed to just be who they want to be then everyone would be happy and rich and if you weren't then you just weren't trying hard enough.
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    Some Russian lady obsessed with a serial killer.

    Her philosophy is and always be irrelevant in the real world, her philosophy solely exists in the minds of her zombies and the places of the Internet in which they dwell.
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    Some Russian lady obsessed with a serial killer.

    Her philosophy is and always be irrelevant in the real world, her philosophy solely exists in the minds of her zombies and the places of the Internet in which they dwell.
    Just a tad bit ironic.
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    I read one of her books once... It hurt me morally to do so, even though at the time I didn't even really know what communism is. Randism appeared too selfish for me to even bother with, so as soon as I finished Anthem I stopped thinking about her theories.

    Suffice to say, the main plot of it was the word "I".
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    Objectivism has four cornerstones:

    1) Egoist ethics
    2) Laissez-faire capitalism and minarchism
    3) Objective reality (A=A)
    4) Reason and rationality

    She contributed to none of these principles significantly and most of it was already said before her. All she did was take a few principles joined them together and gave it a new name--much like Frankenstein.

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    Ayn Rand detested Libertarians. She described them as monstrous people. Yet today the modern internet warrior Right Libertarian worships her ideology.
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    Pampered princess who didn't understand that the poor aren't poor by choice.

    Also she was an obsessive anti-communist even though the Russian revolution opened universities to women allowing her to be among the first group of women to enroll into her university.
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    Objectivism is nothing more than a pseudo-intellectual attempt at justifying being an asshole and exploiter of your fellow humans. Only Rand and her crazed followers even think of her as a philosopher.
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    Ayn Rand: ugly cheerleader for world capital.
    Randism: cult.
    Objectivist: fancy way of saying arrogant prick.
    And if he start to scream, BAWM BAWM, have a nice dream, a true mothafucka going out for the loot.

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    I got the impression she is some sort of libertarian but don't really understand what exactly Randism and her views are ...is it some sort of proto-capitalist anti state Libertarianism ?

    I am from the UK and so somewhat unfamiliar with libertarians.
    She's weird.

    Politically: She's essentially a Minarchist (the lowest amount of government possible without losing the army, the courts, and the police [all the things needed to defend private property]). She's in love with Capitalism, calling it the only moral system in the world.

    Philisophically:
    She goes through this thing about how things exist and we can truly percieve them, the world is real etc. Reason as the only way to determine existence and percieve reality. (We're relatively okay so far, minus her random denunciation of materialism for some reason) She also hates Kant, calling him the most evil man in history (after the holocaust btw)

    Where it breaks down is where we start discussing the nature of man, she claims that man's moral and ethical goal is survival, and then she bases everything else off of that without justifying why that's the case. Further more, even accepting that on face, that's still no justification of why that means be a dick to everyone.

    A good way to get familiar with her views is this site:

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    Pick a topic and you'll learn about her naive and misguided views on it.
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    Objectivism is to philosophy as Scientology is to religion.
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    Objectivism is to philosophy as Scientology is to religion.
    Correction, Objectivism is a religion.
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    Correction, Objectivism is a religion.
    You're right, my mistake.

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