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    Well I'm new to Marxism and have read the manifesto although I should read it again, wasn't really concentrating. Nevertheless, I am interested in knowing the more complicated aspects of it. Yes, I understand that it's a classless society with no exploitation, etc, but I'm a little confused about exactly how the economic system works. So everyone gets paid the same amount, right? Because if a doctor, lawyer, etc got paid more money he would then become higher class. If this is true then where is the incentive to go to college or universities and waste 4 years or so if you're going to get paid the same amount? How then would this marxist society develop scientifically? And lastly, how do family owned buisnesses work? or is there none?

    A quote from RedStar2000
    "In a real communist society, of course, there is no money, no commodity exchange, and hence no economic motive for prostitution."

    As I understand it, RedStar seems to be knowledgable about communism and politics in general. So coming from him this statement would seem factual. Although this comment was not exactly on this topic and I'm not sure if he was refering to Marxism or just communism in general, but can he or someone please explain this more? Thanks in advance.
    "From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need." -Karl Marx

    "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -Lord Acton

    "He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes; he who does not ask a question remains a fool forever." -Chinese Proverb

    "If we want to know how we want our children to be...we should say, with all our revolutionary mind and heart: We want them to be like Che." -Fidel Castro

    "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point, however, is to change it'' -Karl Marx
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    Here's a recent summary of my views...

    Who Will Clean the Sewers?



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    Wow, very interesting ideas, I hope more will read that article. I think you should write a book on your ideas of what a modern communist society could be. I finally understand that in communism there are no classes, but yet people can be more prosperous. The key is that they earned it, not at the expensive of others but from themselves. So there would be people with more possesions than others, but since there was no expoitation it is justified and self-earned. Seriously, you should publish your ideas so the masses can read them and be awaken.
    "From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need." -Karl Marx

    "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." -Lord Acton

    "He who asks a question is a fool for five minutes; he who does not ask a question remains a fool forever." -Chinese Proverb

    "If we want to know how we want our children to be...we should say, with all our revolutionary mind and heart: We want them to be like Che." -Fidel Castro

    "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point, however, is to change it'' -Karl Marx
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    Originally posted by DynamicOpinions@Oct 18 2003, 04:09 PM
    Seriously, you should publish your ideas so the masses can read them and be awaken.
    I've told him that already, but to no avail. He is just too damn lazy. That's why he now has a website, where he can put all of his better stuff into one place.
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    I know certain doctors, that actually became doctors to help people!!!!!!!!
    They (during the 80s) went to guerilla camps and Nicaragua, putting there lives at risk, to work for the futhering of justice and revolution........
    I spend alot of time campaigning for free, we should all take this as an example,
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    Originally posted by redstar2000@Oct 17 2003, 01:01 PM
    Here's a recent summary of my views...

    Who Will Clean the Sewers?



    The RedStar2000 Papers
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    Redstar....I ask this with all due respect....how is it that so many people are capable of clinging to your nuts for dear life? I mean is there really that much room?


    I mean I'm cool with you and all buy you'd think you were the second coming of Hegel by the way these guys follow you
    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
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    sum pepole would rather go to school and be a doctor than do a job like coal mining or farming.
    Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a communist revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
    WORKERS OF ALL COUNTRIES, UNITE!

    Written by Karl Marx
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    I mean I'm cool with you and all but you'd think you were the second coming of Hegel by the way these guys follow you
    What I notice is that the same person will enthusiastically agree with me in one thread and vehemently disagree with me in another.

    I do not seek "followers"--I'm trying very hard to encourage people to "think like Marx". To use the tools of Marxism effectively will serve folks far better than just copying what I said.

    But of course I'm just as accepting of flattery as anyone; I don't mind it a bit when people say nice things about me.

    Do you mind when people say nice things about you?



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    The Redstar2000 Papers
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    Originally posted by redstar2000@Oct 18 2003, 12:45 PM

    Do you mind when people say nice things about you?



    The RedStar2000 Papers
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    I can't name anyone here who has said 1 nice thing about me
    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara
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    I can't name anyone here who has said 1 nice thing about me
    Perhaps it is simply a matter of time.



    The RedStar2000 Papers
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    Listen to the worm of doubt for it speaks truth.
    The Redstar2000 Papers
    Also see this NEW SITE:@nti-dialectics
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    Oh LardLad, I love you buddy. *hugs*
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    Originally posted by Urban Rubble@Oct 19 2003, 02:11 AM
    Oh LardLad, I love you buddy. *hugs*
    thanks????
    "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist." -- Hélder Pessoa Câmara

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