as if prussian blue smoking weed wasnt enuff...

[Kamil]

http://www.easpf.org/ check out this link, perfect timing

[RedSquare]

http://www.easpf.org/ check out this link, perfect timing

All these small movements, whether they be the BNP, BPP, NSM, etc. always split up because they're not formed on any cohesive ideological basis and personal ego rules the day. I'm willing to bet that most people who support national socialism or white nationalism are somehow repressed souls. They either never really read about Marxist socialism, etc. possibly repressed socialists some of them but they don't know it. Hence they always explode eventually, and turn into what they hated.

[Tim Finnegan]

All these small movements, whether they be the BNP, BPP, NSM, etc. always split up because they're not formed on any cohesive ideological basis and personal ego rules the day. I'm willing to bet that most people who support national socialism or white nationalism are somehow repressed souls. They either never really read about Marxist socialism, etc. possibly repressed socialists some of them but they don't know it. Hence they always explode eventually, and turn into what they hated.

[RedSquare]

Surely you've saw the video of a BNP supporter saying she's a socialist, and that the BNP is like the old Labour Party?

Half the time they're giving out about the rich making money at ordinary people's expense, the rest of the time they're blaming Jews, Asians, Africans, or anyone else who is different from themselves for their problems.

I mean how can they not see that uniting the ordinary people, regardless of race, and taking ownership of the means of production away from the rich is the key to their problems, among other actions.

[Tim Finnegan]

Ah, I see what you mean. However, I wouldn't go so far as to call such people "repressed socialists", at least as far as I've experienced them. Their ideology is still essentially producerist, like most fascists, they are just willing to extend their sympathies to the "respectable working class", rather than merely the traditional middle class (not that there is any longer much of a difference, in terms of actual social and financial status, between the "respectable working class" and the "lower-middle class"). A better term would be something like "blue-collar producerists", something which leads them towards clumsy attempts to appropriate those aspects of Old Labour associated with "the good old days", or what have you. It's essentially the same sort of tendency that leads American reactionaries, and, in Europe, middle class reactionaries to wax romantic about the 1950s, simply in the mouths of people whose experience does not allow them to reasonably deny the role of the welfare state in creating the "good" in their "good old days".

[Edit: Holy crap, when did I become a Committed User"? I never noticed that before... ]

[Ocean Seal]

Ah, I see what you mean. However, I wouldn't go so far as to call such people "repressed socialists", at least as far as I've experienced them. Their ideology is still essentially producerist, like most fascists, they are just willing to extend their sympathies to the "respectable working class", rather than merely the traditional middle class (not that there is any longer much of a difference, in terms of actual social and financial status, between the "respectable working class" and the "lower-middle class"). A better term would be something like "blue-collar producerists", something which leads them towards clumsy attempts to appropriate those aspects of Old Labour associated with "the good old days", or what have you. It's essentially the same sort of tendency that leads American reactionaries, and, in Europe, middle class reactionaries to wax romantic about the 1950s, simply in the mouths of people whose experience does not allow them to reasonably deny the role of the welfare state in creating the "good" in their "good old days".

[Edit: Holy crap, when did I become a Committed User"? I never noticed that before... ]

Idk, I thought that you become one when you had 1200 posts. But then again I'm not a committed user yet, but then again I can post in the CU, but I don't because I don't have the tag and I'm afraid I'll get an infraction.

Edit: O wow, I'm a committed user now too. I just noticed that as well. Maybe they approve us in waves.

[praxis1966]

[Edit: Holy crap, when did I become a Committed User"? I never noticed that before... ]

Edit: O wow, I'm a committed user now too. I just noticed that as well. Maybe they approve us in waves.

The reason why you guys probably weren't approved sooner is because CU admissions were temporarily suspended... Now that they're letting people in again, I suspect that a whole bunch of people who would've already qualified are now being let in post haste.

[genstrike]

All these small movements, whether they be the BNP, BPP, NSM, etc. always split up because they're not formed on any cohesive ideological basis and personal ego rules the day... Hence they always explode eventually, and turn into what they hated.

Isn't that a rather ironic thing to say on a place like revleft?

[NewSocialist]

Surely you've saw the video of a BNP supporter saying she's a socialist, and that the BNP is like the old Labour Party?

No, where is this video?