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Ireland: Democratic Right Movement (NEW!)
Keeping an eye on the Stormfront Ireland Europe forum's "Eire Thread" I thought I'd post up the details of a new "white nationalist" group in Ireland, founded by some of the usual goons.
The so-called Democratic Right Movement was founded by Michael Quinn, a failed pro-life election candidate for Dun Laoghaire in 1992 and web designer John Kavanagh who has been a regular feature in the tabloid papers over the last two years.
There website has a forum, and is at http://www.drmireland.com and a youtube page at http://www.youtube.com/user/ARMIreland
Mr. Quinn is not shy about his "white nationalism" and on the website people are invited to contact him to donate or apply for membership with the following contact details in the public domain:
One to watch no doubt
These lads are sure making a lot of friends already.
That's sure gonna go down well over at the Shankill. There I was thinking the LVF-C18 romance meant fascism and loyalism were always meant to be, oh well...Originally Posted by DRM Principles
And they're not making friends with the cokes and the contos either:
Originally Posted by John Kavanagh
"Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree..."
- John Milton -
"The place of the worst barbarism is that modern forest that makes use of us, this forest of chimneys and bayonets, machines and weapons, of strange inanimate beasts that feed on human flesh"
- Amadeo Bordiga
Indeed, they seem to be seriously confused. But that's always been a problem with the whole neo-nazi/white nationalist scene in Ireland as you really can't be a "nationalist" in the south if you don't support the unity of North and South.
So instantly that rules out any quick import and repackaging of Combat 18/Blood & Honour/British People's Party and the British National Party as the ideas and theories of British nationalists would be anathema to so-called Irish nationalists, as would the neo-nazi positions being espoused by some on Stormfront that the basis of Irish Independence in 1916 was part of a Jewish/Zionist conspiracy to split the British Empire, gas the Jews, etc.
Likewise, any pro-United Ireland position will alienate the Loyalist community in the North who identify themselves as British. The only common like that could be found would be in neo-nazi racialist jibberish which would claim all Nationalists/Loyalists of a common race and so they should unite on that basis. However, neo-nazism is not very palatable to tradition nationalists in Ireland so it would still only gather a handful of supporters.
Whatever their downsides, even the Contos could scrape together a more coherent ideology than this lot and probably more supporters too!
To be honest i don't think these guys have any auspice of making friends with the loyalists. You have to understand Ireland has its own unique political spectrum. In the rest of the world, its left vs right. Here its green vs orange. On that particular spectrum, this lot are probably closer to Sinn Fein than they are to the DUP or TUV.
This DRM represents a wave of 'green fascism' that seems to be sweeping the island in recent years. If anything, they hate the loyalists because they believe them to be 'in cahoots' with the pro zionist order. For that matter, I doubt they'll win many fans in the nationalist north either cause they know that northern working class nationalists are too left leaning and they'll get their arses kicked out.
Their target market are the wee ignorant little ireland'ers in the republic that are disconnected from the situation in the north but still engulfed enough by the comparitively more multi cultural atmosphere in places like Dublin to perceive immigration as a threat. The recent financial crisis caused by the bumbling liberals in the South has only exacerbated the appeal of groups like the DRM.
EDIT: I just noticed youre from the falls why do i need to tell you half of this lol
Having visited that website I would bring John Kavanagh's credentials as a "web designer" into question. His business website looks quite boring too
http://www.fxwebdevelopment.com/index.php
These morons are now trying to get on the whole republican band wagon when they talk about a "united Ireland". Its a complete stupidity to suggest that dividing the 26 counties along the basis of race, religion and ethnicity works towards creating a united Ireland when these very notions are what divided it in the first place.
"It is we the workers who built these palaces and cities here in Spain and in America and everywhere. We, the workers, can build others to take their place. And better ones! We are not in the least afraid of ruins. " - Buenaventura Durutti
"The life of a single human being is worth a million times more than all the property of the richest man on earth." - Ernesto Che Guevara.
"Its Called the American dream, because you gotta be asleep to believe it". - George Carlin
Tone ~ Emmet ~ Larkin ~ Connolly ~ O Donnell
www.union.ie
Not a hope of that. There are a few republicans with anti-immigrant views, but generally they know that they can air them as it would result in them being kicked out of the majority of republican organisations which identify themselves as "republican socialist".
Quinn also declares he's not a National Socialist, so he'll lose a bit of favour with the Hitler worshipers and uniform fetishists that make up the core of the neo-nazi's here.
However, I do encourage anyone with the time on their hands to infiltrate their forum and do some good ole trolling.
PS: Yeah, Kavanagh's website looks pretty basic alright
Just found out about these lads recently. They are not just a forum but an active if racist organisation and one we need to put down quickly. We cannot let them exploit on the anger of working class people with their racist anti-immigrant mantra.
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
I agree, though I think they've been going since last Summer on a low key, but they still only have the usual band of 5 or 6 who show up at their gatherings.
The danger lies in the fact that if they're allowed to hold actions unhindered they become acceptable to ordinary folk and the liberal parties. In fact they're discussing that very plan on THIS very thread. An idea from Crimethink's Anarchist Cookbook seems interesting since they're a new group: get someone who's not well known to infiltrate them and see where they're headed.
Certainly they need to be exposed to more anti-fascists. They've been under the radar for a while, but that's deliberate, they plan to build and need quietness to do it. That has to end.
For a laugh, there latest internet radio broadcast:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQAIekceUY
151 views in 24 hrs
Theres no need for infiltration. we need a public organisation of united activists, youth and working people to make sure that they have the hardest time possible in holding anything even remotely public.
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
True, but I think it's important that whatever way they're handled, that anti-fascists and leftists make note of who's involved, other than Quinn and Kavanagh. If we can out those involved it would make their idle followers think twice about sticking their heads out for fascism.
Someone should do a leftist counter to their online radio show.
Everyone here should flag their videos, get them off youtube.
Last edited by Dr Mindbender; 21st July 2011 at 14:20.
Definately we should try some e-activism to get Youtube to consider removing their more explicitly racist videos. As for their broadcasting, they've changed hosts a few time and believe they're now protected under the US 1st Amendment.
Alot of their videos have over 300 views already, and they're #4 - Top Rated (Today) - News & Politics - Ireland
most of those views are probably from us tbh
I see the chat board last nights "DRM Radio" broadcast was disrupted, upsetting a few of them so they just turned it off near the end.
No surprise that there viewer numbers reached a record height for them last night.
I can't post links yet..i'm too new...but please check out this relevant FB page
"Democratic-Right-Movement-Ireland-are-Ignorant-Racist-Twats"
In recent days there's been a lot of talk about using violence against the few people involved in the DRM, I just want to clarify here that I am not in favour of that tactic and it is only those who believe in giving groups such as the DRM no platform whatsoever.
At the moment, they're a laughable group and have been for the last six or so months, I see nothing that is likely to change that anytime soon. Certainly leftists should be confronting them, non-violently, and exposing the huge holes in their policy positions and thought processes.
I do not support criminal damage to their property, banners or materials. It's quiet easy to shout them out, given the fact that anti-fascists could have 50 boots on the ground at one of their protests where there would only be 5 of them.
facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001828126544
...the drm's fb profile
......rip ira
"Man's inhumanity to man" is not the last word. The truth lies deeper. It is economic slavery, the savage struggle for a crumb, that has converted mankind into wolves and sheep.
-Alexander Berkman
I see on their forum they're after holding a successful public meeting in Monaghan last night with an alleged attendance of 51 people!
