Third Worldism

[Valdemar]

I have question about Third Worldism/maoism,
Is third worldism, believing that Imperialist countries/first world are not using its workers and that they are buying first world workers content by exploiting third world, and because of that revolution can't happen in first world countries but third world countries. After that, first world countries will not be able to buy content of its workers and revolution will follow in first world countries ?

Can someone send me literature about it and explain ?
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Why is such belief it that's so, restrict able ?

(CAN I BE UNRESTRICTED AND IF NOT, PM ME WHY) =>that was message for admins and mods who are ignoring my appeal for un-restriction.

[OhYesIdid]

(CAN I BE UNRESTRICTED AND IF NOT, PM ME WHY) =>that was message for admins and mods who are ignoring my appeal for un-restriction.

Subtle.

[Comrade Crow]

TWism is nonsense, first off, largely confined to the e-struggle of the internetz (can I has people's war?). Secondly, it has a lot to do with the theory of the aristocracy of labour, which, due to imperialism, first-world nations suck the life out of third-world nations and that the proletariat in first-world nations are so fat, decadent and brainwashed, they couldn't possibly carry out a revolution thus it's up to the worker's of the third-world to ensnare the first-world nations, defeat the imperialist nations and carry out the world-wide revolution or some such thing.

[Valdemar]

I would like to know more about this topic. Who coined that term and who are its folowers why is restrictable and more...

[Principia Ethica]

This is slightly (meaning totally) off topic but how did you manage to get -9 rep? Just curious. . .

[Valdemar]

offtopic:

This is slightly (meaning totally) off topic but how did you manage to get -9 rep? Just curious. . .

Thanks for asking I will gladly tell you you,
The number was much higher in few weeks ago, around -20 or something
Well it first started with my 2nd post, which was written in 1/3 joke, 1/3 troll, 1/3 trying to help one guy. So i quickly got some bad reputation, and got restricted due sexism That was first bad reputation.

Few days later i expressed my different view on "pride parades", where I said they are counter productive, have nothing to do with class struggle and that I don't support them...whole hell break lose, got even more negative points and some wanted me to get banned...yet I'm still here.

[Valdemar]

Can someone send me literature about it and explain ?
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Why is such belief it that's so, restrict able ?
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[Valdemar]

I've heard here bunch of hostility towards Third Worldism, but now when i want some more in formations, and augmented opinion no one replies, why is so bad thing, and why is restritabele ? Wasn't Lenin also The one who talked about that!?

[Hiero]

http://monkeysmashesheaven.wordpress.com/

You might find some old articles there. The basis for thirld worldism is economic theory.

These ideas began with the political works of Fredrich Engels and Vladimir Lenin, see Lenin's Imperialism the Highest Stage of Capitalism. In one of the back chapters he quotes Engels on the labour aristocracy.

The second set of important theorists from the economic realm are Samir Amin and Aghiri Emmanuel. Look up their wikipedia pages and find the relevent works. They are writing in the 70s I believe, Amin is still alive and writes in third world forums about third world politics. Obviously by now these writers have been challenged, so you have alot of research to do.

I just found this link to a journal article, it may help.

The third worldism that revleft has experienced has been in the form of MSH, they begin with the works above. There is something to the labour artistocracy, there is definitely a labour aristocracy but MSH make a huge conclusion on it's status, when that class fraction is going to always be in flux due to world trade.

I have found it a hard concept to get my head around. One class fraction that is interesting in Australia is miners who can earn from $80 000 up to $150 000 a year driving trucks. Now if I was just to tell people this website, what class do you think someone is from if they earn gross $120 000 a year, most would say middle class. The amount of money that comes from the mines is amazing, someone was telling me when dump truck leaves site it has over $1 000 000 of raw coal on the back. That is about 8-10 years worth of wages on the first truck. The marxist theory still applies, about surplus value and labour time, that 8-10 wages for a year is made within whatever time it takes to rip the coal up from theg ground, load the truck and deliver it to the buyer of raw commodoties. You have to wonder what it does to 1) the lifestyle one can have from earning that much money and 2) what it does to someones political opinion who earns that much. If there is expliotation, it doesn't necessarily equate to an underlying dormant revolutionary conciousness that just needs to surface through a vanguard or whatever.