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Corrupt British establishment
[FONT=Arial]The corrupt British establishment is ripping itself to bits again as the stains of managing the economic crisis burst out into dangerous scandals over phone tapping, corrupt cops, advertising boycotts, bent TV contracts and much more. All their attempts to pull together in this “crisis” are falling apart. Great lessons for workers about “freedom and democracy” crap will prepare the way for more revolutionary “fight backs” against “we’re all in it together” big society cuts . [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial]Leninist revolutionary theory will be vital to lead the way against 'left' reformist pacifist and nationalist sellout shite.[/FONT]
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk
god help us
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
the whole system is failling apopart indeed.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
[FONT=Verdana]You pry to you're god if you think it will help you, but revolutionary Leninism is what will be decisive in this world.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]The difference between us and the reformists (i.e., the Grütlians in Switzerland) is not that we oppose reforms while they favour them. Nothing of the kind. They confine themselves to reforms and as a result stoop—in the apt expression of one (rare!) revolutionary writer in the Schweizerische Metallarbeiter-Zeitung (No. 40)—to the role of “hospital orderly for capitalism”.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]"We tell the workers: vote for proportional representation, etc., but don’t stop at that. Make it your prime duty systematically to spread the idea of immediate socialist revolution, prepare for this revolution and radically reconstruct every aspect of party activity. “[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“The conditions of bourgeois democracy very often compel us to take a certain stand on a multitude of small and petty reforms, but we must be able, or learn, to take such a position on these reforms (in such a manner) that—to oversimplify the matter for the sake of clarity—five minutes of every half-hour speech are devoted to reforms and twenty-five minutes to the coming revolution.” [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/dec/00b.htm[/FONT]
are you joking?
and tha lord god said the past shall conquer the future lo
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
Leninist exceptionalism is something verry narrow minded and stupid you know.
We should be helping eachother and embrace multiplicity to advance our cause instead of making a pissing contest about what is the best leftist ideology.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
secret vanguard is secret.
Please someone ban this vile troll.
nah we're just assholes on the edge of history fighitng over nothing while history moves on without us
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
I seriously believe Leninists have a role to play in the shaping of a future society, i really do, i just dont buy that exceptionalism bullshit.
Diverging opinions are good and necessary in order to develop new idea, but it cant be done if one or many side believe in exceptionalism.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
i pray you are wrong
'heavens above, how awful it is to live outside the law - one is always expecting what one rightly deserves.'
petronius, the satyricon
And we're the ones who always want to shoot people.Please someone ban this vile troll.
It's kinda hard to have diverging opinions when one group tries their best to have no diverging opinions.
Look, Individuals like threetune are only creating further division between the ML and the left communists, Nothing constructive will ever come from a person who believe in exceptionalism like him. The sooner threetune stop his vile rethoric, the sooner intelligent debates can re-emerge between the two groups.And we're the ones who always want to shoot people.
Personally i am just so fucking sick and tired of all this unproductive bickering and fighting, i wish we could debate on issues that would lead to something productive like new ideas.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
And here I thought you were with the nationalists and pacifists....
"I want to say sweet, silly things." - V.I Lenin
[FONT=Verdana]The pant-wetting “credit crunch” which took the world to the edge of the abyss, when the high street cash machines were just hours from being shut down was followed by “quantitative easing” pumping trillions of worthless paper dollars into the bank system to save it. Now bigger potential “[/FONT][FONT=Verdana]debt-default” [/FONT][FONT=Verdana]crisis is now looming: [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]China warns U.S. idea is "playing with fire"[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]By Emily Kaiser Emily Kaiser – Wed Jun 8, 8:41 pm ET[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Posted July 3, 2011[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]SINGAPORE (Reuters) – Republican lawmakers are "playing with fire" by contemplating even a brief [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]debt default as a means to force deeper government spending cuts, an adviser to China's central bank [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]said on Wednesday.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]The idea of a technical default -- essentially delaying interest payments for a few days -- has gained [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]backing from a growing number of mainstream Republicans who see it as a price worth paying if it [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]forces the White House to slash spending, Reuters reported on Tuesday.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]http://www.colinandrews.net/2012-Economy.html[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]This and the growing mass revolutionary outbreaks across the world together with growing domestic resistance to wage and welfare cuts is what is fuelling divisions and squabbles between imperialist rivals and stressing post WWII anti-communist capitalist consensus politics. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana]The domestic politics of every capitalist state will succumb to this crisis disintegration, exposing all the foul cynical exploitation long covered by post-war inflationary boom parliamentary cosiness. Unsurprisingly, the capitalist press manipulation of the British parliamentary racket at the centre of the current “phone tapping scandal,” is showing how all “democratic” parliamentary parties have been in thrall to the Murdoch press, and through him and the banks, to all the big capitalist interests and no amount of tinkering reforming commissions is going to alter these corrupt relation or cover them up. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana]The British working class already contemptuous of the parliamentary “expenses scandal”, the “banking crisis”, and the “pensions crisis” will again be asked to swallow the “press and police corruption crisis”, and that followed swiftly by the “wage cut crisis” etc, etc. And in the middle of all this the union bosses are telling workers the big lie about “winning back the conditions of the past.” And behind them are the ‘lefts’ never raising the need for revolutionary theory to expose the utter stupid uselessness of the whole rotten corrupt wasteful violent monstrosity that capitalism is, and the need to smash its degenerate state organisation. Not a word in the ‘left’ press on these lines, and if you don’t believe it, go and have a look at the cringing economism tail-ending everything from ‘spontaneity’ to ‘left’ Labour and unionism and completely shy and embarrassed to advance Lenin’s incisive understanding on these matters. [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]“The conditions of bourgeois democracy very often compel us to take a certain stand on a multitude of small and petty reforms, but we must be able, or learn, to take such a position on these reforms (in such a manner) that—to oversimplify the matter for the sake of clarity—five minutes of every half-hour speech are devoted to reforms and twenty-five minutes to the coming revolution.” Lenin[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]Could the party members of the ‘left’ groups around Revleft raise this with their leaderships for some open debate in front of the working class? Or are you content to continue hinting that “with a bit more pressure” and “another big demo” and an even bigger “general strike” we can “win back”! the services, cuts, and pensions. Anyone telling workers that, or hiding the facts obout this crisis disintegration, is either a naïve or telling a big lie. [/FONT]
I think both actions dosnt exclude eachother. We are all shooting in the same direction after all.
Stop being so divisive.
WHY kléber, WHY!!!!!!!
When did you stop being a left nationalist? Your trolling was more entertaining.
[FONT=Verdana]News of the World last issue next Sunday, but will the ‘Sun on Sunday’ take its place? [/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana]http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/0707/breaking2.html[/FONT]
