Funny you should say that; he offered the rebels internationally moniterd elections but they refused.
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An election would be nice. But Uncle Muammar wasn't really very fond of them, was he?
Funny you should say that; he offered the rebels internationally moniterd elections but they refused.
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So they're both sucky, yes, we've been saying that for some time.
There was not hundreds of thousands on the video. I've seen crowds and I know how easy it is to overestimate their sizes by orders of magnitude.
Also seriously, Raheem - the "anti-establishment right" is a cute euphemism for fascists.
The anti-establishment rightists like Paul Craig Roberts and Alex Jones, NWO types are libertarians that decry fascism. Of course their sense of history concerning the US is still grounded in exceptionalism but they are always staunch civil libertarians. They're not fascists.
Fascists, in any sense of the word, would be the establishment rightists like Glen Beck, right wing commerical radio, Sean Hannity, the religious right.
I mean how hard is this for you to understand? I thought it was pretty blatant since most of their shows revolve around neo-fascist takeover conspiracies by multi-national corporations and their puppets in Government.
How on Earth is that the same from establishment rightists that wish to curb civil liberties in the name of fighting terror and promote neo-liberalism at home and abroad?
I would soon find some sort of common ground about current events with an NWO Alex Jones guy before it devolved into Bilderberg conspiracy stuff. They know there is a ruling class, they know there is deep politics and it goes deeper than the propaganda on television, they know the CIA conducts democracy destablizing missions. They're just wrapped up in this idea about it all being fostered by seedy underground networks when in reality it's just the capitalist social order at work, nothing more.
How are you going to compare the anti-establishment right who admits that 9/11 was blowback vs. an establishment GOP kool aid drinking pundit who think terrorists hates us because of our freedom and that the wealth will all trickle down if we give out more corporate welfare?
RT News is a pro-Russian new organization that serves the Russian state, but in this emerging multi-polar world, the Russians have decided to combat the US media machine, and in this inter-capitalist fighting we get some good news about US imperial ambitions.
Seriously, with comments about Gaddafi being a fascist arab supremicist, how you can tell if a crowd is 100ks or not and that the anti-establisment right featured on RT New are "fascists", I find it hard to take you seriously.
Why would you 'Cop shit' for it?
Gaddafi was progressive.
Everyone who turned their guns on Gadaffi WAS a rebel scumbag- Gadaffi was a progressive and an anti-imperialist heroSeeing as you're of the opinion that anyone who actually does choose to turn their guns on Gaddafi is a "rebel scumbag", I'm honestly not sure what point you think that you're making, here.
You haven't been here long enough. A lot of Libyan rebel supporters here.
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A hero ally in the U.S War Against Terror more like. And hero ally of the EU in building fäustung europa and keeping immigrants out. These are facts. But if you consider that to be progressive...
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The Gaddafi family stole billions from Libya via its petroleum revenues. In the end Gaddafi suffered a fate as ignominious as that suffered by Mussolini. Gaddafi was about as "progressive" as Mussolini.
Maybe it came up earlier in the thread, but I missed some pages in the middle, so . . . was the video of the rally at the start of this thread "pro-Gaddafi", "anti-NATO", or some ambiguous mix of both? I mean, a person can certainly be one without being the other, or, for example, conditionally "pro-Gaddafi" in the context of NATO aggression, or . . . well, I think there is a lot of room for nuance here that is being overlooked.
I also think it's really dangerous to homogenize resistance to the Gaddafi regime - certainly, there are neo-liberal douchebags involved, but, by the same token, it is by no means a project of exclusively neo-liberal douchebags, nor does the end of the Gaddafi regime necessarily mean the deepening integration of Libya into the world capitalist market.
Basically, this shit is hella complicated.
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Considering the recent revolts and armed conflict between the tribes and the government I'd say that it's worthy of being bumped
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