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Picture of french communists showing support for Irish POWs.
['against english imperialism, long live armed struggle']
Belfast 32CSM news sheet ..
If only there was more of that from certain Irish "socialists" in the south
"The spiritual atom bomb that the revolutionary people possess is a far more powerful and useful weapon than the physical atom bomb"
-Lin Biao
Why are you posting 32csm filth on this site again...?
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
Thats the kind of post to be expected from a SP armchair revolutionary.
Why is everyone so scared of the 32CSM?
Is it because they are speaking the truth about what is really going on in Maghaberry and also in the 6 Counties?
The brutality in that jail puts Britain on a level par with what is going on in Guantanamo or even worse.
It is a disgrace and the authorities are so afraid of it being spoken of that they will arrest anyone in protests or arranging flags or holding bits of paper.
Sorry if it makes you afraid but the 32 arent going away.
To many cowardly socialist groups in Ireland like a flag waving contest. At least the 32s have the balls to get out there and be active.
As the above comrades have said the SP fear the 32 and there politics.The reason is we "Dare" to bring up that big no no that is the British occupation in the six counties,Political prisoners,and are a movement within the working class communties up and down the country.As opposed to a bunch of rich kids who darnt speak of the national question.And whos ranks and ground work show us to be communists as opposed to paying lip service to a tag.
Well said. The SP love waving flags, shouting about fighting back, placards about fighting back but when you suggest or attempt anything apart from waving flags and singing they sh1te themselves and soon disappear.
That goes for their wee friends in NISA too.
And asking the state to have a protest against it ffs, catch a grip.
I like the idea that they now refer to 32CSM as filth. We must being doing something right. It would suit him/her better to attend this...
Protest in Support of the Maghaberry POWs
There will be a Protest in Cork in support of the Maghaberry POWs and to raise awareness of there phlight and fight for Political status!
Assemble
3pm Saturday 18th June
DAUNT SQUARE,CORK CITY CENTER.
Organised by CORK 32CSM
No no no they couldn't do that. They are bad sectarian terrorists who and to kill protestants.......
They have internet revolutions to take care of.
Armchair revolutionary? Seriously? Yes the SP are full of armchair revolutionaries which is why we are the biggest revolutionary group in ireland. Come up with real criticisms next time please.
The 32csm are the political wing of the real Ira an anti working class organisation full of faceless scumbags, who have no links with real working class struggle, and put more effort into irrelevant campaigns than the real issues facing working class people
Rich kids? seriously? get a grip. We do speak of the national question:
http://www.socialistalternative.org/literature/dandr/
http://www.socialistalternative.org/...ions/troubles/
http://www.socialistalternative.org/...ure/terrorism/
http://www.socialistalternative.org/...ure/leftunity/
http://www.socialistalternative.org/literature/tdnp/
If only you took five minutes to actually find out about our position rather than listening to other idiots who keep spewing the same nonsense that we ignore it.
You are paying lip service to the tag, you think being a communist means running around with balaclavas and ak47's and looking awesome? when did Lenin,Marx, Engels, Trotsky or even Stalin ever , EVER do this? You constantly call SP or trotskyists fashionable left, im sorry but theres nothing fashionable about selling papers in the pissing rain, or working your ass off 4 times a week trying to intervene into struggles or create campaigns against the austerity measures that are facing us. Read a book and stop ranting and raving about the same old outdated crap, you can post all the murals you want it doesn't change the fact the 32CSM never were, never will be, a socialist organisation. The socialist party is active in the creating the anti water tax campaign along with the WP, SWP and others, involved in dozens of campaigns against local hospital closures or cuts, and many others. This is what it means to be a revolutionary organisation, it doesn't mean removing yourself from working class struggles and spewing on about the occupation 24/7 while ignoring everything else.
Also i'd just like to point to something, according to Thatcher, the thing that brought her goverment down was not anything to with republicanism or anything else, it was the anti-Poll tax campaign, started by militant(aka the SP)
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
OMG, how the hell are the socialist party internet revolutionaries? honestly. we are one of the few left organisations that are constantly active and doing work in the workplaces, communities and elsewhere
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
One question, after seaching through 32csm policy documents, not finding one iota or hint at socialism the question remains why as a 32csm member are you on a site for the revolutionary left? or if you are a leftist why are you in the 32's?
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
The 32csm are a political pressure group and not a political party. They are not officially socialist but have done more than the SP or SWP. They have been involved in every protest against the cuts north and south.
Their actions are revolutionary and the group that people link them too are just as revolutionary. The majority of their members are also socialists.
THe biggest revolutionary group! Are you nuts seriously?
THe 32s are NOT the political wing of the IRA but they have done more for the working class than the SP ever will. THey have been at the forefront of all protests against cuts. They are also involved in tackling crime and drugs accross Ireland. YOu think the ongoing occupation of Ireland is irrelavent? You will never have any socialism in Ireland with British presence. None of them give a position and only talk about booklets.
I have yet to see the SP promote a the national question in anyway.
Im not a supporter of the 32s but I will defend them. And fair play to those who have the guts to take up arms and put their lives on the line to fight the empire. I don't support them but I will never condemn them or hinder their struggle.
The SP are the trendy left. Im a trot too if you must know. And the 32s have done more than sell papers. They take part in protests accross no matter the weather, they get battered of the streets by garda and PSNI. They are contantly stopped and harrassed by the RUC. Get their doors kicked in in the middle of the night by the scum. Their children have been sexually assulted during these searches. They get attacked and their arms broken by the RUC but rather than the RUC getting in trouble they throw them in jail.
They are arrested while holding their children in their arms:
+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2lyc0uNZIc" title="View this video at YouTube in a new window or tab" target="_blank">YouTube Video
General Secretary of the 32s Marian Price is currently interned in Maghaberry Prison on her own in an all male prison for nothing!
The workers party? Didn't think you would like the super sticks. You know who they where linked to don't you?
And can I ask why the SP refuses to work with the IRSP who are more communist they you's every will be and have done more for the working classes than you's ever have or will do?
Not officially socialist?all i needed to know.
And no they haven't done more than either of the SP, SWP, WP, or even CPI at that. Their actions are nothing but revolutionary, you think killing drug dealers like topper stanton is a revolutionary act? And btw i have yet to see the 32csm at any of the protests against the cuts of which their have been loads that i have attended both in Cork and Dublin.
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
