THe biggest revolutionary group! Are you nuts seriously?
THe 32s are NOT the political wing of the IRA but they have done more for the working class than the SP ever will. THey have been at the forefront of all protests against cuts. They are also involved in tackling crime and drugs accross Ireland. YOu think the ongoing occupation of Ireland is irrelavent? You will never have any socialism in Ireland with British presence. None of them give a position and only talk about booklets.
They are the political wing of the Real IRA. And no they have not, have they stopped A&E's from shutting down through working class community based campaigns? have they lead mass movements against things like the bin charges and water tax in the 90's? have they set up campaigns against social welfare cuts, are they active in the trade union movement demanding more radical action against the cuts? where will they be when working class people need a voice to oppose the JLC cuts, or the SNA cuts or the water privatization, taking about the british occupation and about evil drug dealers i suppose because fighting on the bread and butter issues is just to trendy for them of course.
And for the last time we don't ignore the occupation, read them again if you must, if we ignored like you said then i wouldn't be here debating about it with you now would i ?
I have yet to see the SP promote a the national question in anyway.
Im not a supporter of the 32s but I will defend them. And fair play to those who have the guts to take up arms and put their lives on the line to fight the empire. I don't support them but I will never condemn them or hinder their struggle.
Yes fair play to those who shoot british soldiers, PSNI officers, drug dealers and civilians (accidentally, maybe, but doesn't change the fact) who play into the hands of reactionary scum like ian paisley and gerry adams and set back the movement for working class unity.
The SP are the trendy left. Im a trot too if you must know. And the 32s have done more than sell papers. They take part in protests accross no matter the weather, they get battered of the streets by garda and PSNI.
Your clearly aren't a trot, and if you were i suggest reading his pamplet about why marxists oppose individual terrorism i.e groups like the 32csm, INLA and the IRA. and no the SP is anything but trendy its alot trendier to spew nonsense about guns, and killing de brits and attacking others who disagree with murdering people on a whim in the name of "justice".
They are contantly stopped and harrassed by the RUC. Get their doors kicked in in the middle of the night by the scum. Their children have been sexually assulted during these searches. They get attacked and their arms broken by the RUC but rather than the RUC getting in trouble they throw them in jail.
And what exactly is this supposed to do? They got in trouble from the police? they got there doors kicked in? whats your point? yes i oppose police brutality in every respect including this of course but just because an organisation was attacked by the police doesn't mean its revolutionary.
The workers party? Didn't think you would like the super sticks. You know who they where linked to don't you?
I'm aware. But at least the WP provide a decent voice for real working class struggles and work with the SP on many different issues.
And can I ask why the SP refuses to work with the IRSP who are more communist they you's every will be and have done more for the working classes than you's ever have or will do?
Ha.
Oh and by the way, your 32 buddies were the ones responsible for Omagh. "Have done more than the SP" well ya, we haven't killed anyone i suppose.
"Marxist psychology is not a school amidst schools, but the only genuine psychology as a science. A psychology other than this cannot exist. And the other way around: everything that was and is genuinely scientific belongs to Marxist psychology" -Lev Vygotsky
"The Bolsheviks have shown that they are capable of everything that a genuine revolutionary party can contribute within the limits of historical possibilities. They are not supposed to perform miracles. For a model and faultless proletarian revolution in an isolated land, exhausted by world war, strangled by imperialism, betrayed by the international proletariat, would be a miracle."
-Rosa Luxemburg
