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    A counter-revolution can only occur when the revolution has not yet been settled, therefore suggesting that the Soviet Union was still a capitalist society, merely one engaged in a period of transition between capitalism and communism (or socialism, if you insist on the Leninist distinction). If that's the case, then you're not actually contesting my assertion, you're merely re-framing it.
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    Why? Because you can't handle criticism of your tendency?
    No, because you and your fellow posters' "criticisms" are disasterous. Why the fuck are you even on revleft? For Christ sakes, you get rep for posting in the "Iraq War deaths" thread and that's all you contribute. All you do is ***** and whine about how everyone else is wrong and you are right all the time because "I've been a Trotskyist for durp durp durp years".

    Shut the fuck up. You offer nothing to leftist discussion and you only serve to derail threads. So why do you do it? To make yourself feel better about being a failure in life? Is it because you have nothing better to except whine online about how you were "persecuted by Stalinists" and how we ruined every revolutionary opportunity in the history of Marxism?


    Fuck you, Dave. Fuck you.
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    Now as a reversal: name a successful revolution led by anarchists or trotskyists? Catalonia doesn't count since it collapsed almost immediately and the Paris commune for the same reason.
    You wouldn't happen to be writing that from the Soviet Union in 2011, would you?
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    Scheming individuals determining the course of world history =/= Marxism
    Doesn't this mean then that Stalin and his cohorts could not have wrecked the Soviet Union?
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    Doesn't this mean then that Stalin and his cohorts could not have wrecked the Soviet Union?
    Yes, exactly. Whatever was wrong the Soviet Union was structural, not the work of some marauding clique of wreckers.
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    Then what's under contention? That the Soviet Union was ever socialist at all, even if for only five minutes?
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    Then what's under contention? That the Soviet Union was ever socialist at all, even if for only five minutes?
    That's a grander contention than you make it out to be, and cuts straight to the heart of the Marxist understanding of historical progress.
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    What a fucking disgrace that grown "men" would degenerate to such a level as seen in this thread.

    I want to make one thing very clear to everyone in this thread, if any of you threaten anyone on this board again with physical violence against another person, I will not give you an infraction, but perma ban you. And it wont be up for discussion.

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