i am 100% AGAINST the death penalty. life is sacred
end of story
and you are refering to the donald marshall jr case and it has happened numerous times in canada
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i was wondering. is the death penalty a 'right' thing to do?
for example, say a man kills 5 people intentionally. and he is definately guilty. should he be sentenced to death?
or spend his life in jail?
in canada we don't have the death penalty because a man was sentenced to death. years later they found out he was innocent. this was back in 1960's. i think...
so what do you think?
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i am 100% AGAINST the death penalty. life is sacred
end of story
and you are refering to the donald marshall jr case and it has happened numerous times in canada
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maybe for you nick. lets hear other peoples opinions...no?
This is <span style=\'color:red\'>my</span> rifle. There are many like it but this one is <span style=\'color:red\'>mine</span>.
Since the day I was born I had a wonderful dream
To make people hurt to make people scream
I wanna fight you but you don't dare
I spit on your face and you just stare
I beat you down and the cops don't care
Stab you in the chest
Right through the flesh
Shove the knife in deep
Cause life is cheap
Like hookers from Budapest
sorry. i just meant that life is to sacred. i see the death penalty as a form of torture which i'm sure most of us are against
second of all it is hypocritical to condem murder but allow state sanctioned murder
third there are too many innocent people that could potentially die
fourth -- it sure as hell isn't deterring anyone in the states from committing murder
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Nay to state control over life and death
Nay to state murder
Let them rot in a boring prison instead if they are cruel people like Timothy McWeight. Criminals should not be killed, they're living people they too!
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did Che ever murder anyone?
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I think community service or rehab (drug addicts mainly) for minor offenders.
Prison should only for the truely dangerous offenders (murderers, rapists and arsonists).
But there are some crimes which I think deserve the death penalty like Genocide (serious genocidal murderers only) but fortunately the only people I can think of to put into this category are the the leading Nazis and Khmer Rouge leaders and most of them are dead.
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I am, and always have been against capital punnishment. Putting someone to death is nothing more than revenge... it is barbaric... and should be outlawed. Besides... sometimes living with what you have done is far worse than dying. And the amount, nor the brutality of the murders commited by the victom of the death penalty doesn't make it more right. We outlawed the death penalty in NY... however brought it back a few years ago...
I have a question... does Cannada have the Death penalty? Is it up to provences or the federal govt. as a whole?
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"Putting someone to death is nothing more than revenge..."
how do you reconcile that with the fact that Che himself had an awful lot of people put to death?
I support the death penalty. Although, for some people it's too good a punishment. When are we going to gas Charlie Manson and Mark David Chapman, world's biggest psycho assholes?
I have been against the death penalty for a long time, for reasons that most death penalty opponents (and proponents) are familiar with: it is wrong in and of itself, it is unjustly applied to poor, uneducated, and nonwhite defendants, and appalling numbers of people sentenced to death have been proven to be wrongly convicted. Study after study has shown that the risk of execution does not deter people from committing capital crimes.
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If Capital Punishment is right, and we say murdering someone is wrong, how does murdering him make it right? Because he took the life of another? It's still taking life, how can it be wrong for an individual but right for the state?
Imprisonment of these offenders would be even worse if you think about it, day after day in solitary confinement until the day they die would make them think and regret their choice more. The execution of Timothy McVeigh did nothing to sway him, it merely made him a martyr for his cause.
As for Canada and the death penalty, there is no death penalty on this side of the border. We first restricted it further to only being able to get a the death penalty for killing a prison guard or a judge or something like that, then after a while they just eliminated entirely back in like the 1970s sometime.
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thanks Very... I didn't think Canada had the death penalty.. I wasn't sure.
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no worries... I was wondering which US states don't have the death penalty as a form of punishment anymore?
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Well we abolished it a long time ago in NY... and haven't killed anyone since the '30s I think... but Mario Cuomo lost the Governership primaraly because he was against the death penalty. We have it again in NY... but haven't used it.
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very is right. canada doesn't have the death penalty and in fact in a recent decision of the supreme court of canada canada refused to extradite people who would face the death penalty. the burns and raffey case (as it is called) was a case involving two boys who killed their parents while they were in the states (california i believe). anyway then they fled to British Columbia. Despite the extradition treaty between canada and the US canada refused to send the two boys back to the us because they would face the death penalty. our supreme court said tha the gov't was justified in this decision and basically affirmed that canada is against the death penatly.
my goodness i'm turning into a lawyer.. l . i can see it in my posts . .. . .. aaarrrgghhh!!!!
(Edited by Nickademus at 6:14 am on Oct. 17, 2001)
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ah the story is right, a couple facts were off... first they were Canadians, from the high end rich boy look at me i have a fast shiny car part of town (sorry kinda bitter against experiences i've had working there) known as West Vancouver. and their family had a house in a Seattle suburb, and the murders were commited in Seattle, and then the boys returned back to Vancouver, and the rest you got perfect...
Nickademus, goin through law school?
(Edited by very at 6:32 am on Oct. 17, 2001)
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I am 100% opposed to the death penalty also.
To hold the principle of respect for life means non-negotiable respect for all life.
To support the death penalty for anyone, for any reason, is to disrespect life and to engage in the most perverse moral relativism possible.
It cannot but be supportive, socialist, communist or whatever you want to call it. Does nature, and the human species with it, have much time left to survive in the absence of such change? Very little time. Who will be the builders of that new world? The
lol... your post is samwiched between two law students... Nickadermus goes to Ottowa University.
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