Has revleft changed over the years?

[727Goon]

So I was looking back at old posts and shit and I came across a thread from two years ago about the Taliban ( http://www.revleft.com/vb/iso-suppor....html?t=115882 ). In it, roughly half or more of the people came out against the Taliban and argued that a Taliban victory would not be good for the working class. However, nobody was restricted or demonized as an imperialist. Now I've clearly been restricted for not supporting the Taliban, as I've said over and over and fucking over again that I support the defeat of the US by progressive forces, so I'm honestly wondering if the rules have changed or just the general atmosphere since then.

[hatzel]

Now I've clearly been restricted for not supporting the Taliban

Technically I do believe you said something more along the lines of "I support the US, because the Taliban is that bad" (correct the wording if you remember), which is slightly different...still, haven't we had enough threads about your restriction? Just get over it. Wait a few months, and then post in the dedicated thread. Don't just debate your restriction all over the shop...

[727Goon]

That's hypothetical bullshit though why does my 2nd round pick matter. Anyways it's not really about my restriction it's about revleft in general. This thread isn't about me getting unrestricted and I'm not here to debate my restriction, I want to know how revleft has changed since then and especially since all the (Organization that you can't say here) people got banned. I think there are a lot more authoritarian socialists and "anything but imperialism" types.

[a rebel]

how is the religious fundamentalist Taliban progressive? People have to choose one imperialism over the other in Afghanistan.

[727Goon]

how is the religious fundamentalist Taliban progressive? People have to choose one imperialism over the other in Afghanistan.

Watch out bro nuanced positions that arent black and white are a no-no around here. Anyways seriously though that shit was just an example this thread isnt really supposed to be just about the Taliban or me but revleft in general this shits interesting. Were there more anti-authoritarian posters back in the day?

[a rebel]

anti-authoritarian posters? just google image it

[#FF0000]

Watch out bro nuanced positions that arent black and white are a no-no around here. Anyways seriously though that shit was just an example this thread isnt really supposed to be just about the Taliban or me but revleft in general this shits interesting. Were there more anti-authoritarian posters back in the day?

Stalinists used to be restricted.

[RedSunRising]

Stalinists used to be restricted.

Wow, really?

Hoxhaists, Maoists, Tankies and Marcyites???

[#FF0000]

Wow, really?

Hoxhaists, Maoists, Tankies and Marcyites???

Don't know about Maoists, but yeah I think so.

[Drosophila]

Stalinists used to be restricted.

And rightfully so.

Anyone who supports ridiculous ideas of old world dictators should not be called a leftist.

[#FF0000]

And rightfully so.

Anyone who supports ridiculous ideas of old world dictators should not be called a leftist.

To be quite frank folks like you are and those you support are just as bloody and traitorous as any Stalinist from my perspective.

[The Douche]

Some RAAN members getting banned (not all, I used to be a RAANista, remember, and theredson was/is a RAANista and he's a mod) has nothing to do with how the board works/worked. You think there are "a lot more" "authoritarian" socialists now, because you're not allowed to talk about RAAN anymore?

[mikelepore]

A common mistake that dominates at revleft is to assume that, since the U.S. is imperialistic, therefore _everything_ that the U.S. does is an example of imperialism. If the country gets attacked, and then it responds by attacking the attacker, and then you say that such a response is to be expected, people here will read your post and then paraphrase what you wrote such that you have supported imperialism.

[Blackscare]

A common mistake that dominates at revleft is to assume that, since the U.S. is imperialistic, therefore _everything_ that the U.S. does is an example of imperialism. If the country gets attacked, and then it responds by attacking the attacker, and then you say that such a response is to be expected, people here will read your post and then paraphrase what you wrote such that you have supported imperialism.

I guess that's true, in a hypothetical sense, but I fail to see where the US has, at least recently, honestly responded to a direct attack by another nation with appropriate force.

[Viet Minh]

Initially I was in support of the war in Afghanistan, this is before it actually started, because of the way the Taliban were treating women for one thing. There was a football stadium used for public executions, which allegedly could take place just because a man accused his wife of looking at another man. Girls had to go to school in secret, and women were forced into prostitutution because it was illegal for them to work. So at the time I thought although the US isn't exactly progressive they could bring some peace and safety to the country. How wrong I was!!

Similarly I supported the war in Iraq, because of Saddam Hussein's gassing of the Kurds, invasion of Iran and Kuwait, supression of Shia's and Arabs. But life in Iraq and Afghanistan are arguably far worse for the poor people there. I can't speak for revleft as I've not been here very long, but thats my personal viewpoint anyway. Its not that I've changed so much as the situation has, or at least the initial reasoning for the war has been revealed (oil).

[ZeroNowhere]

I guess that's true, in a hypothetical sense, but I fail to see where the US has, at least recently, honestly responded to a direct attack by another nation with appropriate force.

I think that the poster to whom you were responding would think that there are some concrete recent examples, as for example here:

There's a lot about the left that bugs me.

I dislike the automatically-blame-America tendency. Some of them think everything the U.S. does is to be denounced. Not me. For example, I believe the president did exactly the right thing bombing the hell out of terrorist training camps in Afghanistan and using the military to topple the Taliban government.

[Tablo]

Read some more old threads. This site used to be much much worse. The things people used to get away with and the worthless spam posts people made would be incomprehensible to most posters now days. I really do think this site has improved a lot, atleast since it started. Some argue the quality of discussion has declined the past couple years, but I think it is more like the intelligent and well informed users are tired of having the same conversations over and over. So little seems to be going on on the left we have little more to debate over other than the rule of some 20th century dictators...

[Tommy4ever]

People here support the Taliban?

ffs revleft

[9]

I think that the poster to whom you were responding would think that there are some concrete recent examples, as for example here:

jesus...

[hatzel]

People here support the Taliban?

I vaguely remember there was a thread a few months ago called 'does anybody really support the Taliban?' or similar, and I think the general consensus was a no, no we don't. Perhaps a few of the 'usual suspects' (you know who I mean ) might have spent a few minutes praising them as a noble anti-imperialist force, but that's just what those types do, you know...you could search for the thread in question if you want a more in-depth understanding of the RevLeft position, but I don't know if it's worth it