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    There are only 2 routes that will end street prostitution,
    The first is legalizing it, then setting regulations to ensure the safety for everybody involved, nobody is going to hire a prostitute who may have a STD when they can go to a legal brothel that checks both its costumers and workers for any sign of disease also the legalizing of it would allow for unions to be formed. This how ever is the short term fix. The second route is to remove the economic conditions that force women who to sell their bodies. By making prostitution illegal (even if you just go after the pimps and costumers) you are driving it underground and into the hands of criminals who have no problem using women and girls as little more then slave labor.
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    Except laws against pimping are generally so broad that they even make working as a team (which is a much much better way to ensure safety) a crime. Of course I'm not even sure if you'd have thought about this.
    I know that some pimps are women, but isn't it generally true that most of the time it's a man pimping a woman? In which case it's simple: shoot the male pimps.

    Again, mea culpa, I thought I was talking from experience, but it was in fact that inner liberal in me.
    ??? How did you read "liberal capitalists" as directed at you? Are you a capitalist?
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    I know that some pimps are women, but isn't it generally true that most of the time it's a man pimping a woman? In which case it's simple: shoot the male pimps.
    No, in fact, it's often not. I't not "women pimps" it's workers tag teaming in most cases. And you're really really a bore with the wannabe stalinist stuff: trust me I can fake it better.

    ??? How did you read "liberal capitalists" as directed at you? Are you a capitalist?
    Because you're a troll who talks in broad strokes.
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    No, in fact, it's often not. I't not "women pimps" it's workers tag teaming in most cases. And you're really really a bore with the wannabe stalinist stuff: trust me I can fake it better.
    That's my point. Since most actual pimps (not workers tag teaming) are male, the solution is simple: only consider males to be pimps. And I don't see what shooting the pimps has anything to do with wannabe stalnism. I'm sure lenin would have done the same.

    Because you're a troll who talks in broad strokes.
    You seem to be the one trolling here.
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    That's my point. Since most actual pimps (not workers tag teaming) are male, the solution is simple: only consider males to be pimps. And I don't see what shooting the pimps has anything to do with wannabe stalnism. I'm sure lenin would have done the same.
    There are male sex workers.

    You seem to be the one trolling here.
    Says the person who basically picked their OP's first line to rile up.
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    There are male sex workers.
    They're almost non-existant though. I think it's worthwhile to shoot the men that pimp women before we worry about that small portion of male prostitutes.

    Says the person who basically picked their OP's first line to rile up.
    I criticized liberals. I didn't post this in OI. As there are no liberals outside of OI, I didn't expect anyone here to get riled up.
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    They're almost non-existant though.
    They're not

    I think it's worthwhile to shoot the men that pimp women before we worry about that small portion of male prostitutes.
    You're an annoying white knight.
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    They're almost non-existant though. I think it's worthwhile to shoot the men that pimp women before we worry about that small portion of male prostitutes.
    You think that we should butcher all men in the company of female prostitutes, on the off chance that they may turn out to be pimps, while simultaneously letting female pimps run scot free?

    You, sir, are a fucking psychopath.
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    The anarchist revolutionaries in the film Libertarias weren't too nice to the brothel madam after taking over the place and attempting to recruit the workers. Fiction, but based on history and worth considering.
    "Unless revolution uproots the basic social organisation, the biological family - the vinculum through which the psychology of power can always be smuggled - the tapeworm of exploitation will never be annihilated."

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    The anarchist revolutionaries in the film Libertarias weren't too nice to the brothel madam after taking over the place and attempting to recruit the workers. Fiction, but based on history and worth considering.
    Oh, I'm certainly not defending capitalists of any rank, and least of all those slimy beasts, but what Sword and Shield proposes can't even be addressed as an extreme example of that "not too nice" treatment, but as violence-fetishism masquerading as militant feminism.
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    Oh, I'm certainly not defending capitalists of any rank, and least of all those slimy beasts, but what Sword and Shield proposes can't even be addressed as an extreme example of that "not too nice" treatment, but as violence-fetishism masquerading as militant feminism.
    I was reminded of the movie Taxi Driver.
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    They make up 20-25% in the United States (that would drop significantly in a socialist country once you allow gay marriage): http://www.bayswan.org/stats.html and are almost never pimped: http://sex-crimes.laws.com/prostitut...ion-statistics

    You're an annoying white knight.
    Why thank you.

    You think that we should butcher all men in the company of female prostitutes, on the off chance that they may turn out to be pimps, while simultaneously letting female pimps run scot free?
    I suggest we shoot all the guys found pimping women. If we find a female pimp, the requirement for evidence should be higher to make sure we aren't just shooting a prostitute.

    You, sir, are a fucking psychopath.
    I think you mistook me for Psycho.
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    As a revolutionary tactic, rushing in to save the day - particularly with guns - has severe drawbacks. And asking the bourgeois state to shoot people is even worse. Though I abhor violence, I can grant that prostituted folks have the moral right fight back against pimps by any means necessary. That's a far cry from outside actors rolling in and unilaterally gunning people down.
    "Unless revolution uproots the basic social organisation, the biological family - the vinculum through which the psychology of power can always be smuggled - the tapeworm of exploitation will never be annihilated."

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    As a revolutionary tactic, rushing in to save the day - particularly with guns - has severe drawbacks. And asking the bourgeois state to shoot people is even worse. Though I abhor violence, I can grant that prostituted folks have the moral right fight back against pimps by any means necessary. That's a far cry from outside actors rolling in and unilaterally gunning people down.
    I was advocating the socialist state shooting pimps, not the bourgeois state.
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    Perhaps it should be compared to someplace like Italy, where the prostitutes unionized, and have gone on strike. That was a while ago, and it's quite possible that conditions there have changed with the availability of Eastern European slaves.
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    They [male sex workers]'re almost non-existant though.


    In what planet do you live, please tell me again?

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    In what planet do you live, please tell me again?

    Luís Henrique
    I just sourced that: http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.p...4&postcount=32
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    (that would drop significantly in a socialist country once you allow gay marriage)
    lol, because straight marriage causes an significant drop in female-prostitution, right?


    please tell me how this would work out...
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    lol, because straight marriage causes an significant drop in female-prostitution...
    The heterosexual prostitution rates are far lower than the gay prostitution rates. Thus, when you claim that male prostitution won't lower when gay marriage is allowed, you're being homophobic.
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    Originally Posted by sword and shield
    They [male sex workers]'re almost non-existant though.
    Originally Posted by sword and shield
    The heterosexual prostitution rates are far lower than the gay prostitution rates.
    Originally Posted by your sources
    Average prostitution arrests include 70% females, 20% percent male prostitutes and 10% customers.
    so first you claim male prostitutes are almost non existent, now you seem to say that there are more gay prostitutes while your sources seem to indicate the opposite especially when you consider that the homophobic US police would probably be more inclined to arrest male prostitutes than female ones.

    make up your mind to what you actually are stating already...
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