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Am I the only one who is having a sincerely difficult time comprehending Bud Struggle's line of reasoning?
No. What I'm getting is something like because it's being taught in a capitalist school then the real truth of the book has changed.
Have you ever read the book?
Yea. But better yet I have a kid in HS In an IB program that read it and was taught it was an anti Communism text. So I guess that's what the book means now.
Not really my concern of course, believe as you will.
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Tim, live in any cosplay world that suits you. Enjoy! I really don't think you have a clue what the world is all about. NATO is winning Revolutions. All the Communist Chinese want to talk about is venture capital and Jesus--the Tea Party may give us our next President.Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a scathing satire on the decline of the Tyneside ship-building industry:
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Are you paying attention?
Yep, you've totally lost me. I am not in possession of the barest scooby as to what you're blethering about.
NATO joined one revolution, late in the game. The tea party has basically been dead in the water for months among the populace (the majority of americans wouldn't vote for a single one of their candidates). And China is... well.. doing what China does; winning.
I see it didn't take you long to get back to your usual line of reasoning;
"america, fuck yeah!
Comin again to save the motha fuckin day, ya!"
Save a species, have ginger babies!
"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." ~Albert Einstein
Except those aren't Revolutions.
A revolution is the overthrowing of one class by another.
[FONT="Courier New"] “We stand for organized terror - this should be frankly admitted. Terror is an absolute necessity during times of revolution. Our aim is to fight against the enemies of the Revolution and of the new order of life. ”
― Felix Dzerzhinsky [/FONT]
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I agree with your posts.
I agree with your posts.
Bud struggle is saying that animal farm is taught as something that it isn't, because it's easy to make misconceptions between comparing Stalinism to actual socialism. It doesn't help that for 50 years, they were the only branch that had a safe haven and a source of support during struggles, and were the only ones using the term "communist" in their names.
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"[I]t’s hard to keep potent historical truths bottled up forever. New data repositories are uncovered. New, less ideological, generations of historians grow up. In the late 1980s and before, Ann Druyan and I would routinely smuggle copies of Trotsky’s History of the Russian Revolution into the USSR—so our colleagues could know a little about their own political beginnings.”
--Carl Sagan
NATO is not doing any revolutoins, NATO is trying to latch on to revolutions, most of which were against US supported dictators.
China is talking slave labor and venture capital, and no shit they are.
And the Tea-party becomming the next presidnet? Does'nt really matter because as the economic super power the US is finished.
BTW, the tea-parties aproval rating is below 25%, the democrats approval ratings are terrible the only thing that is worse is the republicans.
Americans are finished with bourgeoise politics totally, problem is, as of now they don't have anywhere else to go.
Bud Struggles lack of Marxian analysis of his situations, such as Libya, is the big issue here.
He has a lack of any analysis really, other than "GO USA, GO CAPITALISM."
It might be due to the fact he isn't a Marxist.
Bud, if I am not mistaken, works on the premise that it's a cop-out for communists to say that the USSR, North Korea, China, Kampuchea etc were not communist along the lines of the "no true Scotsman fallacy".
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i think thats a pretty good left communist/anarchist claim too ^^
funny thing is, with our current government systems, its pretty much the same, cappy or soicalist. Leaders ALWAYS take all the money for themself. ruling class much?
"Men choose as their prophets those who tell them that their hopes are true." -Lord Dunsany
"As a Marxist, as a Communist and as a free human being, I oppose any Czar, Dear Leader, Premier, Emperor, Kaiser, Dictator, etc, etc. So I tell you; to hell with your Stalins, Hitlers, Maos, and Francos. I oppose any tyrant not because he kills a million people, but because he is a tyrant. I say no to tyranny and oppression, and anyone who disagrees does not belong here." - Iron Felix
Its not a fallacy at all. There are plenty of examples of socialist institutions and even communist institutions, its not difficult, its just that the USSR, North Korea and so on WERE NOT socialist or communist institutions, you could argue that there were periods in the USSR with some communist institutions, but then again there are also in some private capitalist countries.
Its just simply does it meet a basic and common definition.
It's sad that George Orwell is used as a symbol of anti-communism when he himself was in fact a communist,just an anti-stalinist. He fought in the Spanish Civil War on the republican side.
Orwell wasn't a communist. He was a traitorous scum who turned communists over to the British intelligence..
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Where did you get that from? Stalinoids R' Us? You're quick to label people "scum"- the guy fought against fascism in the Spanish Civil War with the left ffs. If anything good old Stalin and his Soviets fucked up the Spanish Civil War too.
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Argue that with Bud- it's his premise, I think at least.
It's interesting though that if someone were to argue that say the Vatican were not a Christian institution when discussing things like the Inquisition and the Fourth Crusade people would not accept that.
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