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what do you guys think, would it be wise to rade bush for bin laden, i know iknow, the taliban won't trade a charismatic leader like bin laden w/ a texan who's i.q. is comparable to a moldy sponge, but bin laden doesn't know that, he lives in such secrecy that info. doesn't get to him that fast, he might not know bush is a moron, i mean c'mon, we don't really need bush, it's not like he has a functional purpose for the gov't, he just stands around trying to decipher all the "big" words he hears.
Can you imagine being speach writer for Bush? Having to constantly change words in his speach to one's he isn't going to stumble over... I imagine they are quite limited to what words they can use... that's why his speaches are full of phrases like, " wanted dead or alive, " and " Well smoke 'em out of their holes... get em running".... but na... it wouldn't be the humaniterian thing to do to trade em.... Afghanistan has suffered enough.
In Solidarity,
RC
haha, red that was hilarious the people have suffered enough. i say off with his head!
Speaking of speech writers, RedCeltic and the rest, do you have spell-check? Is it coincidence that this thread is about morons? You don't see the irony, do you?
Che Guevara wannabe
guest - you equate intelligence with an ability to spell and/or check one's spelling? A most revealing comment about the state of your own intelligence - how ironic indeed.
It cannot but be supportive, socialist, communist or whatever you want to call it. Does nature, and the human species with it, have much time left to survive in the absence of such change? Very little time. Who will be the builders of that new world? The
Not at all Chancho - I equate criticizing someone for their alleged inability to speak as a polished professional on their feet while misspelling the entire critical post (as well as others) with laziness, ignorance, a lack of education or maybe just motivation, and a lack of common sense. The irony was lost on you too. I had higher hopes for you, though.
Madmax - if you equate spelling errors with "laziness, ignorance, a lack of education or maybe just motivation, and a lack of common sense", then what conclusions do you draw from grammatical errors? I note that your posts are full of them.
Your alleged perception of 'irony' was understood by me in ways that are decidedly beyond you. I see the pattern that is emerging now: you take a trivial piece of information and extrapolate all kinds of unjustifiable conclusions from that information. Do you see that as consistent with the actions of a reasonable person?
So you had "higher hopes" for me, did you? lol lol lol lol Do save your profoundly patronising ignorance for people you actually know in your non-digital life.
Your attempts to insult are unprecedented in their naivety.
It cannot but be supportive, socialist, communist or whatever you want to call it. Does nature, and the human species with it, have much time left to survive in the absence of such change? Very little time. Who will be the builders of that new world? The
uh... I never said I was smart... I'm just a poor working stiff... I didn't realize this forum was only for the highly educated... but uh... mostly it's because I type faster than I think and am too lazy to spell check... sorry if it bothers you.
In Solidarity,
RC
The topic of the post has nothing to do with spelling. If you have nothing to say that is in alignment with the topic or a debate of the topic, then SHUT UP!!! I am tired of all these idiotic personal attacks.
By the way, there have been a lot of people accepted as genius' that have had very poor spelling, and even some that are dyslexic. SO, Enough already.
Ask not what your country can do for you, or what you can do for your country. Ask what you can do for one another.
Oh man.
The assertion that madmax "equate[s] intelligence with the ability to spell and/or check one's spelling" reflects either a lack of critical reading ability or simply a self-serving bias. max pointed out the IRONY that people who attack the grammar of a Yale and HBS graduate don't even spell correctly or use anything resembling proper grammar. Don't let your ego be bruised TOO much (everybody here gets so fucking offended at the slightest assertion that they aren't the smartest person on the planet...I wonder why that is). But in the future, if you're going to persist in attacking the grammar of the leader of the free world, make sure you take the time to at least promote the appearance that yours is any better.
\"Everybodys interests are not naturally opposed to everybody elses...I dont see any argument that states how one person\'s interests must be maltreated by a society of freely associating equals.\"
-pea˘eniKKKed
Reagan, once again you seem to have lost your mind. Whewn you come to this post what section do you come to? General POLITICAL topics. When you come to discuss POLITICAL topics it is not a time to make personal attacks on the people who post their thoughts. As for the Bush/board poster debate about grammar and spelling, I think, if you would investigate just a little, you will find that most people do not write exactly as they speak. Good ability in oratory skills is not a matter of spelling. You speak words when you talk, you don't spell each letter out individually. Big difference in the two areas. Also, it may simply be a matter of typing in a hurry. I saw one of my posts recently that had a couple of major errors in it. I didn't go back and correct them because I thought that this board was a place that would be more concerned with the post than the spelling. Getting my point across about my ideas. Not someone who is having such a bad day that they need to come to this board just to criticize rather than debate.
Ask not what your country can do for you, or what you can do for your country. Ask what you can do for one another.
I contribute to this forum because it is a forum about working class struggle, and I am of that struggling class. I didn't study at Yale like George W. Bush... I didn't have the money. Instead I trained in my field in the us military... and now use the sweat off my back to pay for my education.
I wouldn't be well suited for G W's job... of that I'm sure... Like him, I have poor English skills, and am not a charismatic public speaker. However, I didn't start writing on this forum because I wish to apply for the job.
I am an American who has served his country and has worked for years in a physically demanding field to build homes for some of the most wealthy people in the world... in the Hamptons of Long Island. Therefore I reserve the right to question the ability of the president to perform his job.
I couldn't do his job either... of this I am sure of... but I doubt he or you could haul boilers down basement stairs... Cast Iron bathtubs up stairs... dig ditches... etc...still have time to go to school part time... and display poor English skills on the Internet.
I'm not bragging.. .but merely making the point that while I surely couldn't do his job... he can't do his job... and I reserve the right to question my government!
And by the way... I'm fully aware of my poor English skills... so your not hurting my ego... because frankly I don't care.
In Solidarity,
RC
i was watching GWbush one night giving a speech to pentagon workers.
he had a very hard time saying big words...
"underamestimated" "underamesitmated"
should be "under estimated"
and stuttered the whole time.
poor guy...
This is <span style=\'color:red\'>my</span> rifle. There are many like it but this one is <span style=\'color:red\'>mine</span>.
Since the day I was born I had a wonderful dream
To make people hurt to make people scream
I wanna fight you but you don't dare
I spit on your face and you just stare
I beat you down and the cops don't care
Stab you in the chest
Right through the flesh
Shove the knife in deep
Cause life is cheap
Like hookers from Budapest
a bit like Homer Simpson and his need to say 'Saxomophone'.
"We of the Capitalamist Free World cannot toleramate terroramist attacks on the Unitemed States. Further the Communimist and Anarchimist apologomists will not be toleremated"
(NB: THIS IS NOT A DIRECT QUOTE)
You mean like bashing someone who makes occasional mistakes when speaking? Which is it? I never thought this point would have to be made three times!
p.s. Extrapolate.
Madmax! Did you even read what I just posted? Just because I’m not qualified to do Bush’s job doesn’t mean I shouldn’t question his ability to be a leader! The working class should by all means question the ability of our leaders to properly represent us.
In Solidarity,
RC
Celtic, nobody's questioning your right or ability to criticize our leaders...it's this very right and ability that makes this nation great. I think there's a failure to communicate here, so let me try to break it down:
Assumptions:
1) George W. Bush's job as President is to lead.
2) RedCeltic's job as Citizen is to question the President.
3) madmax's job as Opposition Party [in this particular environment] is to question RedCeltic.
[note: I don't mean to "pick on" RedCeltic here, I'm just using him as an embodiment of various people that have posted on this thread]
Events:
1) RedCeltic question's Bush's ability to do his job based on allegations of poor grammatical skills.
2) In doing so, RedCeltic displays poor grammatical skills.
3) madmax question's RedCeltic's ability to do his job based on allegations of poor grammatical skills.
4) RedCeltic comments on the unimportance of grammatical skills.
Now do we see the irony?
\"Everybodys interests are not naturally opposed to everybody elses...I dont see any argument that states how one person\'s interests must be maltreated by a society of freely associating equals.\"
-pea˘eniKKKed
Ok ok… you have a point! It was only a silly remark anyway. It’s only a superficial flaw that doesn’t necessarily make him a bad leader. We’ve had our share of leaders with handicaps or flaws before… FDR with polio, and quite recently Clinton and his affairs. Both of these men I consider to have been good presidents (even though I’m no Democrat either) despite their personal problems. So I admit… I made a fool of myself.
In Solidarity,
RC
People, I am loathe to add fuel to the fire but here it is anyway ... wasn't the original point about GW's intelligence deficiency? Anyone with perception can, for example, observe two different people with equally poor speaking/writing skills and note two different levels of intelligence. That is, it is not merely speaking/writing skills that reveal GW's stupidity - it is obvious from his entire being. Just as it is obvious that despite RedCeltic's poor spelling sometimes, he is very intelligent. So pointing out the poor speaking/writing of someone really is pointless.
Reagan - as has been stated already, the irony was not lost on anyone - but there is a GREATER irony in the fact that Madmax then came along and drew such an outrageous parallel in order to make his point. No doubt you'll ignore or distort this point also.
Nonetheless, who here would argue that GW is a beacon of reason? C'mon, at least we can agree on that ... and yes, it is something that should be criticised - it is nothing short of irresponsible to give the top job to a simplistic fool and the fact that GW occupies the presidential position is indicative of just how corrupt and inaccessible the position is.
It cannot but be supportive, socialist, communist or whatever you want to call it. Does nature, and the human species with it, have much time left to survive in the absence of such change? Very little time. Who will be the builders of that new world? The
Yes well it’s the man’s politics I mostly disagree with and was simply making a joke among comrades. I’m quite addicted to this bb and mostly post without bothering to spell check. After almost 600 posts without anyone complaining about it I didn’t think it mattered much.
And I don’t think of myself as intelligent… if I was some kind of a genius or something I wouldn’t have had to struggle in life as I have… I have seen great injustices in my life and know that something must be done. And I think what distance G W and myself is primarily that he never had to work for anything in his life. He has not seen what I have, because he didn’t grow up poor on the wrong side of town. But also… I suppose I go through life with open eyes… that makes me aware of how the world truly is, while many would rather shut it out and do things for selfish reasons.
I suppose G. W. Bush is like Reagan, in that he believes in the trickle down theory… that if you give most of the money to the wealthy… they will invest it… and some will trickle down to the poor. I am not a Democratic Socialist because I think it’s a cool idea or that I’m keenly interested in politics… but rather that as a human being with an open mind and heart I am outraged at the severe inequalities in our country and world.
In Solidarity,
RC
