man, reagan lives is gonna have a field day with this!
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im not an america, and i have very little info on this president and his various schemes, if someone could inform me on all that havoc this man has caused it would be appreciated. i might be wrong but i heard he was the one who put crack in the ghetto, or was it another president? anyway any info on another "great leader" will be appreciated comrades. peace
man, reagan lives is gonna have a field day with this!
\"One murder makes a villain...millions a hero. Numbers sanctify, my friend.\" -Charlie Chaplin
LoL... yea sure he will.... but uh... I hated the 'gipper'.... He did alot of messed up stuff... one was when the air traffic controlers went on strike.... he fired the lot of 'em and hired all new guys... who are now all up for retirement... lol....
And before president... the guy was President of the Screne Actor's Guld... he turned informer during the McCarthy hearings and blacklisted many of his coworkers for being commies!
There's just too much crap he has done to us leftist Americans, Americans, and the World to list in one post...
..... I truly dispise him with a passion.
(Edited by RedCeltic at 11:40 pm on Oct. 8, 2001)
In Solidarity,
RC
oh uh... as far as putting crack in the gettos... I don't know the history of crack cocane but it did grow to uncantrolable avalability here in NY..... but then I knew guys who freebased in their cars before school... I didn't grow up in the inner city, but I lived, and still live in a very poor section of Long Island. And if you want to ever see the division of classes.... come to Long Island where you will see people who can't afford a home or a car.... but go to work to pay child support.... being mocked at by the richest people in America passing them by in luxery cars. The Long Island expressway ( or the big LIE) is jammed full of the buggers on fridays... expecaly in the summer... everyone in NYC wants to go to the hamptons.... Sorry... I'm getting off the subject... but unless you live in LA.... It's hard to relate.
In Solidarity,
RC
Yeah, the man was pure evil.
He presided over the longest period of peace-time expansion in our history. 20 million jobs were created in 7 years. Average household income was up every year. The classic myth that "the rich got richer and the poor got poorer" is just a myth...anyone who wants to go and look at the numbers can see that the 80s were a period of high income mobility (85.7% of those in the bottom 20% going into the Reagan years moved up at least one quintile, with average family income of the bottom quintile increasing by 77%). Social spending didn't decrease sharply, but rather leveled off during the Reagan years after increasing steadily for 20 years. People will also tell you that his tax cut only benefited the rich...another lie. The across-the-board 25% cut actually caused a better percentile decrease for the poor than the rich. Sure, the debt grew during the 80's, but it's important to remember that every year Reagan was President, Congress operated on a substantially larger budget than what he had asked for (had they not, we would have been operating on surplus for the last couple of years of his Presidency).
Instead of buying into the liberal dogmatic idea of "Reaganomics" as either a moronic plan or an evil machination of the right, read up for yourself...http://cato.org/pubs/pas/pa-261.html.
So, in summary, he wrought "havoc" with his "various schemes," including manufacturing crack in the East Wing of the White House and personally selling it to the inner-city youth of DC, who, when he arrived, were studying to go to medical school.
Oh yeah, and he won the Cold War, too.
\"Everybodys interests are not naturally opposed to everybody elses...I dont see any argument that states how one person\'s interests must be maltreated by a society of freely associating equals.\"
-pea˘eniKKKed
BRAVO
Che Guevara wannabe
I find it harder and harder to believe anything the Reagan supporters claimed as those happiest under Reagan years were either too young to know what was going on or too rich to care.
Try this link. Sure, it's "liberal shit", but they have a damned good idea of just WHAT Reaganomics did and how it worked:
http://home.att.net/~Resurgence/1THE_REAGAN_YEARs.htm
Yes! Exactly Jurhael, exactly! And a great informitive site....
In Solidarity,
RC
For those who don't know, the Cato Institue is a FAR right "libertarian" propaganda machine.
Face is, however, that the working class suffered under Reagan, for those "across the board" tax cuts were off set by rises in the payroll tax, which the working class pays.
Reagan was a piece of war criminal (remember, folks, he mined harbors in Nicaragua, an international act of war) filth. Now that he's unaware of fouling himself, I feel no pity. None at all.
Reagan was an FBI informant, ruining lilves even though the elite pretends that we have freedom of association, per the First Amendment, and was another Big Government Republican who increased the debt from about one trillion dollars, when he took office, to about three trillion when he left. It was a deficit budget that Reagan loved, and the proof is in the debt. And let's not forget that Reagan had a Republican Senate from 1980 to 1986, with Bob dole as the leader.
Even Papa Bush called it "voodoo economics!"
Reagan funded terrorists and created bigger government, two things Republicans love.
vox
Economists have provided capitalists with a comforting concept called the "free market." It does not describe any part of reality, at any place or time. It's a mantra conveniently invoked when it is proposed that government do something the faithful don't like, and just as conveniently ignored whenever they want government to do something for them.
Bigger government? Yet they blame the "Liberals" for a "Bigger government". Heh
thanks for making things cleared vox, although i dont much about his actions, i am well aware of his involvement in the killings in nicaraugua. filth is about the most generous word u could label him with, the man is a peice of shit. peace
(Edited by DaNatural at 11:29 am on Oct. 10, 2001)
enough of piece of shit that he defended americans right to call him that. Listen i dont much appreciate the rise in payroll taxes either, when i read about reagan. and if you know about the name i use on this board you'd now where i stand on his foreing policy in respect to nicaragua. but hey, he did help take down the USSR. Personally i think being an american and calling him an asshole is the greatest tribute that you can pay the man, like i said it is a small tribute to the american freedoms that DA MAN helped to defend.
I\'m right, and you\'re wrong. -Vox
Interesting that the "involvement" in killings in Nicaragua would inspire your hatred. Nicaragua was a wholesale slaughterhouse where all sides tortured and killed civilians. No one took the moral high ground. Maybe you could spread that hatred around? Your communist brothers are not riding on white horses either.
Che Guevara wannabe
(Edited by ViktorPravda at 3:50 pm on Oct. 10, 2001)
Ask not what your country can do for you, or what you can do for your country. Ask what you can do for one another.
The Fall of the Soviet Empire helped to destabilize the world. Try to follow me for a moment please.
America- The good guys. If a country is in trouble, America whips in, offers assistance, establishes a military base to defend the nation, stays after the threat has gone. The country that America moves into has a growing economy due to the base. Everyone knows that US Military bases create an enormous economic growth. The country in question decides not to do something Americans want them to, they threaten to remove the base which would destabilize the economy causing a major amount of suffering and loss to them.
USSR- the Bad Guys. They have a problem with a country, they move in militarily to take control. They kick some ass or get theirs kicked. If they win, they establish a more stable government than the one that was previously there. The end.
Most of these "up-start" countries understood that if they got too out of hand the Soviets would come in and take over, or loose havoc trying. Countries like these feared the USSR a lot more than they fear the US. Even if you argue politically on the issue, you have to see that with these two countries competing for power the smaller countries feared starting too much trouble. Now there is only one Super-Power. Not nearly as much to fear. A lot easier to damage one enemy without the threat of angering another.
All in all, I would say the Eagle and the Bear made good Zoo keepers. Together. Mainly. Also, they kept each other in check. Checks and balances. Isn't that an American expression? American's like having checks and balances. Supposedly.
Ask not what your country can do for you, or what you can do for your country. Ask what you can do for one another.
Acres and acres and acres of forest have been levelled over the argument over the most stable international system. Is our current unipolar system more or less stable than the previous bipolar one? Was that more or less stable than the multipolar system that preceded it?
Who the fuck knows. The truth is that all of them have their merits and downfalls with regards to international security. Does the presence of another "superpower" help to keep smaller nations in line? Probably. But then again, with only one "superpower" there's not the chance of the entire world getting blown up over a radio soundcheck or some other stupid shit.
And saying "The Fall of the Soviet Empire helped to destabalize the world" implies that the world is destabalized in the first place. And that I certainly don't buy.
\"Everybodys interests are not naturally opposed to everybody elses...I dont see any argument that states how one person\'s interests must be maltreated by a society of freely associating equals.\"
-pea˘eniKKKed
guest to respond to your comment, reagan supplied contra forces to overthrow a government who had taken office in nicauragua, he hought it was a threat to democracy" because they wanted to nationalize parts of their country. of course he didnt like that and what insued was rampant murder, it also killed the ecoomy. this was the only key to victory for an opposing party who reagan approved of, one that shares in his vision of "democracy" . reagan declrared a state of emergency because nicaruagua was trying to protect itself by purchasing missile to hold of attacks on the country. reagan saw this as a threat, only a threat to foreign invesment and had the nerve to call a state of emergency, what a peice of shit.
-"It's all Reaganomics, welfare, weapons and drugs, the government is thugs thats why the leader caught a slug."
Reagan,
This is going to cause me a great amount of pain. Please at least try to sympathise with that, but.. here it goes.
Good points. Good Post.
There, I said it. Anyone got a Band-Aid?
Ask not what your country can do for you, or what you can do for your country. Ask what you can do for one another.
I disagree with Viktor. I don't think it was a good post at all, especially this part:
"Who the fuck knows. The truth is that all of them have their merits and downfalls with regards to international security. Does the presence of another "superpower" help to keep smaller nations in line? Probably. But then again, with only one "superpower" there's not the chance of the entire world getting blown up over a radio soundcheck or some other stupid shit."
Why should smaller nations have to be kept "in line," Reagan? And in whose line?
Do the citizens of smaller nations, citizens by an accident of birth, somehow have less of right toself-determination than those in larger nations? That seems to be what you're saying, but I don't buy it.
Too, there wasn't any real threat of an attack over a "soundcheck." Reagan, in his senility, did not know that the mike was live and made a joke about bombing the USSR. At least, that's the official story, that he didn't know it was live. Of course, the president joking about such a thing provides a good insight into his inhumanity.
It seems that your Leader didn't know a lot of things, huh?
vox
Economists have provided capitalists with a comforting concept called the "free market." It does not describe any part of reality, at any place or time. It's a mantra conveniently invoked when it is proposed that government do something the faithful don't like, and just as conveniently ignored whenever they want government to do something for them.
