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    So I was in History class today, and it was 26 Capitalists. vs. 1 Anarcho-Communist. Anyways I was talking about Anti-Zionism, and my teacher said "Marxist-Leninists, and other Communists support the Holocaust because they are Anti-Zionist. They are extremely discriminatory against Jews."

    I flipped out and started yelling at him, even though I don't agree with M-Ls. I thought I'd let you guys know.

    Your thoughts on this ridiculous assumption?


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    What was his response to you yelling at that stupid bastard?
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    You should not get mad and start yelling...then you immediately loose a debate...though in this case fully understandable.

    Perhaps next time you could ask him if he supports the genocide against and the expulsion of palestinians from their land in reply...seeing as that is the main goal of zionism. smash the ball back in his court and put him on the defensive.

    and also state that you do not like his implication and you feel deeply insulted by his hate speech since obviously thsi means that critical evaluation of philosophies and political though is not appreciated and the argument akin to the arguments of the prosecution and judges in the Streicher trails. Ask him, seeing that he uses the same kind of reasoning...he agrees with those trials.
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    Of course they supported the holocaust, that's why the Soviet Union liberated concentration camps and (originally) supported the creation of the Israeli state.
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    What was his response to you yelling at that stupid bastard?
    Honestly, I was thrown out of the class for disruption. He says "You want to teach the class? I'm the teacher, I know what I'm doing."

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    Eh - it's a common Zionist trick: 1) "Zionist=Jewish." 2) ergo, "anti-Zionist=anti-semite=Holocaust denier." 3) X=anti-Zionist, ergo X=Holocaust denier.

    You're lucky. This syllogism is frequently used in Europe to shut up all opponents of Zionism, including Jews. In France, for instance, Jews whose parents died in the camps have been heavily fined for "inciting racial hatred" by French judges whose parents sent them there.
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    Your teacher is an idiot who equates Zionism and Judaism. You should refer him to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast.
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    So I was in History class today, and it was 26 v. 1 Capitalists vs. Anarcho-Communist. Anyways I was talking about Anti-Zionism, and my teacher said "Marxist-Leninists, and other Communists support the Holocaust because they are Anti-Zionist. They are extremely discriminatory against Jews."

    I flipped out and started yelling at him, even though I don't agree with M-Ls. I thought I'd let you guys know.

    Your thoughts on this ridiculous assumption?


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    I would consider reporting this action. Your teacher has, in effect, accused you of supporting the holocaust and antisemitism. I would report this to his superior. Assuming he's a teacher within the History department, report him to the department head. If that garners no response, go higher, maybe to the Dean of Students.

    I would preface my report with an apology for making a scene, and while you are apologetic in regards to raising your voice and acting out of hand, you still feel as though it was somewhat justified given the severity of claims being made against you and completely without justification.

    Do this first as it lets your teacher know that you aren't going to be pushed around simply because he is 'the teacher.'

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    Of course they supported the holocaust, that's why the Soviet Union liberated concentration camps and (originally) supported the creation of the Israeli state.
    while the US initially did not...indeed
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    Honestly, I was thrown out of the class for disruption. He says "You want to teach the class? I'm the teacher, I know what I'm doing."
    For sure...unfortunately knowing what you are doing does not automatically imply knowing what you are talking about.
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    Lol I didn't know I supported the holocaust.
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    Haha, I love how we're simultaneously a Jewish Conspiracy and supporters of the Holocaust
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    Of course they supported the holocaust, that's why the Soviet Union liberated concentration camps and (originally) supported the creation of the Israeli state.
    and murdered jews on a scale that made the tsarist pogroms look like a disneyland vacation. but nevermind that; its not called The Holocaust™, so who carez.
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    and murdered jews on a scale that made the tsarist pogroms look like a disneyland vacation. but nevermind that; its not called The Holocaust™, so who carez.
    What ? While there were some terrible anti-Semitic incidents in the history of the USSR, overall it has been a great friend of the Jewish people, and its pretty ridiculous to say it was anything like as bad as Tsarist Russia.
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    Sounds like your teacher needs a lobotamy...

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    and murdered jews on a scale that made the tsarist pogroms look like a disneyland vacation. but nevermind that; its not called The Holocaust™, so who carez.
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    What ? While there were some terrible anti-Semitic incidents in the history of the USSR, overall it has been a great friend of the Jewish people
    whatever that means

    and its pretty ridiculous to say it was anything like as bad as Tsarist Russia.
    I think maybe you should reread my comment, a little more carefully this time.
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    Honestly, I was thrown out of the class for disruption. He says "You want to teach the class? I'm the teacher, I know what I'm doing."

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    'Yeah sure' would have been the appropriate answer. You should also ask him why Israel plans to erect a monument dedicated to the Red Army.
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    and murdered jews on a scale that made the tsarist pogroms look like a disneyland vacation. but nevermind that; its not called The Holocaust™, so who carez.
    I also don't know what you're talking about, 9.

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    oh come on - the purges of all the "trotskyite" traitors of the motherland and their families; the doctors' plot; night of the murdered poets; rootless cosmopolitanism....

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