Libya Newsfeed

[Sentinel]

The previous Libya-thread has reached 500 posts, and has been closed as per board policy. Please post breaking news from the Libyan revolution in this thread from now on.

Edit: posts accidentally made in the previous thread post closure by Global Mods Ravachol and Dimentio merged here. Please feel free to continue any interrupted discussions here.

[Ravachol]

It's not either the current regime or chaos, it's either the current regime or NATO. This situation is moving very quickly towards NATO stepping in and seizing control in the name of 'stability.'

- August

This is no more than a logical course of action. In order to maintain internal stability, in order to govern disorder and to keep the gears of Capital running smoothly, there will always be imperial intervention in periods of instability in order to prevent a secession from Capital's tissue. Whether it's these kind of uprisings, Italy's 'years of lead' or what not, military intervention by the forces of 'law and order' is no more than a logical consequence of any uprising and something any movement serious about revolution should keep in mind.

[Dimentio]

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...934486492.html

[Princess Luna]

4:00pm An eyewitness named Ali from Az Zawiyah tells Al Jazzera that soldiers fired at protesters with heavy fire arms for five hours this morning. Some of the protesters, he said were armed with hunting rifles, others were unarmed.
"The shooting was direct to the people. They shot the people in the head or in the chest. They were trying to kill the people, not just terrify them," said Ali.
He added that at least 100 people had been killed and that around 400 injured were taken to the hospital in Az Zawiyah.

[Ligeia]

nothing out of the ordinary, they must be prepared to send a rapid task forces if kadafi would go nut and kidnapp their folks like saddam did back then with brittish nationals.

May be true but it's always good to keep track on such plans: when and what is going on where and who is acting.
Whatever happens to the citizens of some European country and how to deal with it (like evacuations which are already taking place) is up to every country individually.
Military intervention on the other hand is something they (the European Union) are planning together.

[danyboy27]

May be true but it's always good to keep track on such plans: when and what is going on where and who is acting.
Whatever happens to the citizens of some European country and how to deal with it (like evacuations which are already taking place) is up to every country individually.
Military intervention on the other hand is something they (the UE) are planning together.

of course we need to remain vigilant.

i wouldnt put much faith in a EU military intervention, just like the rest of the world, they got enough shit on their plate, plus kadafi is playing the ''they are gonna get me'' card, best course of action is to wait.

has i said, if anything, some misterious crate of ak-47 and bullets are gonna appear from nowhere in benghazi.

[danyboy27]

1. 1623: Lisa Goldman, in Tel Aviv, Israel, tweets: "Online with my friend in Tripoli now. He tells me that people from Misrata and Zawya have beaten back the pro-Qaddafi forces."
   
   

[danyboy27]

i got the feeling that today might be the big day. i could be wrong tho.

[danyboy27]

1. 1617: Libya's state TV, in what appears to be a first, is now airing urgent captions in English.
   
   

[danyboy27]

6:09pm Al Jazeera's correspondent in Al Baida reports says that the situation can be described as a "nervous quietness" - with most of the town being under the control of the residents as they've taken over the military barracks and all the weapons there.
"Shops are closed - life is at a standstill - schools are closed, local tribal leaders are trying to take things into their own hands...still, in the area, they say there are mercenaries," said our correspondent. The mercenaries, she said, are either Libyans working for the government or foreign fighters.
She added that in Al Baida, most people are staying indoors, and that residents there rejected any claims made by Gaddafi that they were following al-Qaeda and that they were on drugs.
She also said that people there feel like they've reached "a point of no return",

[danyboy27]

1. 1727: The Libyan ambassador to Jordan has resigned from his post, the AFP quotes a report in Jordan's state-run Petra news agency

[danyboy27]

1. 1804: Switzerland has ordered an immediate freeze on any assets that may belong to Col Gaddafi and his entourage, the AFP news agency reports, quoting the Swiss foreign ministry.
   
   

hahahaha WHERE IS YOUR ARMY OF MERCENARIES NOW!

[Sasha]

@ dannyboy, gadaffi sadly already moved most of his bilions from switzerland to the US and the EU (his primary holding is actually offcialy in Ridderkerk, a small dutch town in the midle of nowhere) after the swis police arrested one of his sons for an hotelbrawl, i think he removed about 4 bilion US dolar out of swis banks overnight in retaliation.

an AJ article with an analyse of the significance of the use of the "monarchist" flag: http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...123588553.html

key quote:

Speaking to Al Jazeera, Youcef Bouandel, a Libyan professor of international affairs at Qatar University, explained the significance of the protesters' choice of flag.
"This flag is the flag of Libya when it achieved its independence from the Italians ... and I think that people are saying that Libya is going to achieve its independence that was stolen by Gaddafi," he said.
Bouandel said the choice of flag did not indicate a particular predilection towards returning to a monarchical structure - as the original flag was used by the country when it was ruled by the el-Senussi family - rather it was a reaction against Gaddafi, and an expression of a desire for independence.

"[It is] to tell him that there was a Libya before Gaddafi came to power," said Bouandel.
"He seemed to imply in his speech that he was Libya, that he made Libya ... [but they wish to say] there was a Libya that fought for its independence and that was the flag of Libya before you took power in what you called a revolution."

also:

5:13pm As this Tweeter puts it:

Great question. Where was Gaddafi calling from? Intially, word was that the Libyan leader would appear live and make his statement from Az Zawiyah, but then, a phone call, which ended rather abruptly. We'll Youtube that and embed it here for you shortly.

good question indeed

[danyboy27]

damn you psycho!

1813: Jon Leyne is the first BBC reporter to reach Benghazi, which has seen some of the worst violence in the country and is now under opposition control. He says the city is largely calm and being run by a committee of lawyers, judges and respected local people, operating from the court house and urging peo

[Os Cangaceiros]

The whole issue of Qaddafi's money was curious to me, too. It seems like the EU member states could just issue an order to freeze his accounts if they wanted to.

[Sasha]

problem is its entirely unclear what is lybian money and what is gaddafi money, offcially the state owns these holdings (including some huge shares in newspapers, banks and juventus football club) so its legally way more dificult to freeze states assets than personal assets as its not yet obvious the money is embazzeled from the state.

[danyboy27]

1. 1928: European interior ministers have agreed in Brussels that the threat of a mass exodus of migrants from Libya and elsewhere in North Africa is a problem for the whole of Europe. But there are very different views on how to respond, the BBC's Europe correspondent Chris Morris.
   
   

a threat? give me a fucking break.

[danyboy27]

1939: Libya's state TV airs an urgent report, which states that "the Libyan air force has destroyed what is left of weapons depots that are out of (government) control in the desert, and in rural and uninhabited areas."

[ckaihatsu]

This seems to echo recent events in Egypt but perhaps at an accelerated pace...(?)

Amid the turmoil, a defiant Gaddafi has vowed to quash the uprising.

He delivered a rambling speech on television on Tuesday night, declaring he would die a martyr in Libya, and threatening to purge opponents "house by house" and "inch by inch".

He blamed the uprising in the country on "Islamists", and warned that an "Islamic emirate" has already been set up in Bayda and Derna, where he threatened the use of extreme force.

Major-General Suleiman Mahmoud, the commander of the armed forces in Tobruk, told Al Jazeera that the troops led by him had switched loyalties.

"We are on the side of the people," he said. "I was with him [Gaddafi] in the past but the situation has changed - he's a tyrant."

A group of army officers has also issued a statement urging soldiers to "join the people" and remove Gaddafi from power.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/af...256699145.html

[Sasha]

"Gaddafi has achieved the impossible: he made Mubarak look dignified and Ben Ali look like a genius"

some random tweet i saw