Here comes Libya! -- Libya newsfeed

[Leonid Brozhnev]

Holy crap. Bombing and strafing his own populace? Does Gadaffi even understand what he's doing? There's no turning back from shit like that, he's more or less dead as it stands, any other country planning of harbouring him would be committing political suicide. I really hope Gadaffi is still in Libya so when protesters break into his compound they can slowly drive a tank over his balls.

[Nolan]

I really hope Gadaffi is still in Libya so when protesters break into his compound they can slowly drive a tank over his balls.

They might ask the IRA for help. I hear they're experts in ball torture.

[danyboy27]

1. 2040: It's well into the hours of darkness now in Libya, and the situation is reported to be extemely tense. From Tripoli, one eyewitness told the BBC that people there are expecting a major event tonight - "a final battle" were the words used.
   
   

[danyboy27]

1. 2047: One of the most active anti-Gaddafi tweeters, Libyan Dude, tweets: "Ok, more important than ever to say this I guess: We don't want foreign (and western) intervention, only condemnation and humanit. aid".
   
   

[Palestine]

This looks like Rwanda, I thought people were exaggerating by calling it a genocide, but looks like it is

[danyboy27]

bro, send the link but dont post the picture on the board, i think i am gonna throw up.

[Rosa Lichtenstein]

Can a mod remove that picture please?

[Omsk]

@Danyboy:Good to hear,Libya must try to distance itself from the Americans,their interest and tearms are well known,Libya must continue its eforts after the revlolution,the regime is over,but there will be greater chalanges that will need to be acomplished,Libya must maintain its national integrity and sovereignty.

EDIT:remove this picture,or at least post a link.

[Palestine]

bro, send the link but dont post the picture on the board, i think i am gonna throw up.

Sorry man, removed the picture, but I wanted to show what is really going on there.

[danyboy27]

2 brigades, its approx 6000 men.

the libyan military is about 45 000 active personnal, 119 000 reserve.


its gonna be quick and bloody.

[punisa]

Sorry man, removed the picture, but I wanted to show what is really going on there.

Shock is the only eye-opener for some people. Can you post a link? Or explain what the picture was about (for us who missed it)

[Os Cangaceiros]

2 brigades, its approx 6000 men.

the libyan military is about 45 000 active personnal, 119 000 reserve.


its gonna be quick and bloody.

Two brigades...is that all he has left?

[danyboy27]

1. <li style="opacity: 1;" class="type-9999">2111: In an eye-catching public statement, influential Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi told the al-Jazeera TV network that any Libyan soldier who has the oppotunity should shoot and kill Col Gaddafi.
   
   
   2108: Libya's army is reported to have withdrawn from areas by the Egyptian border, Reuters reports. Egypt's army is said to have reported the movement via its Facebook pag
   
   

the cavalry is coming

[danyboy27]

Two brigades...is that all he has left?

actual estimate by an expert and also, some airforce and special security personnal.

[PhoenixAsh]

Yes.....but for who?

Gadaffi also relies on mercanaries and outside forces. But parts of the military both airforce, infantry and cavalry, are still loyal and are currently shooting (tanks and airplanes) at several cities. Benghazi, Misrath and other places.

[Ismail]

I still wonder through, how do Stalinists and Maoists reconcile condemning Gaddafi while advocating Stalin and Mao. Gaddafi is a butcher because he killed hundreds of protestors, Mao and Stalin were "right to kill tens of millions" because "the millions they killed were all counter-revolutionaries".

I was unaware tens of thousands protested in the Red Square and Stalin was like "SEND IN THE TANKS" and massacred people.

The Great Purges were more like a manager being picked up by the NKVD and accused of being a joint Polish-British spy, and then "admitting" that other managers were not only involved in his spyring, but also had links to Germany and Japan, and that they operated from a base in northern Persia where they helped give blueprints to Neo-Basmachi rebels in tandem with Ukrainian fascist émigrés based in Romania. Workers actually cheered on the NKVD in many cases and denounced their managers as bourgeois agents or exploiters (as noted by various authors.) Completely innocent people with pro-government records could easily get picked up, interrogated, and executed.

Even in Maoist China, the situation wasn't quite the same.

There weren't mass riots or anything of the sort.

Also no one claims that millions were "counter-revolutionaries." The Great Purges weren't a centrally planned operation.

And now on the subject of this topic, Enver Hoxha spoke about el-Qadhafi in 1980:

[FONT=Palatino Linotype, serif]As is known, in 1969 there was a revolt in Libya, too; the dynasty of King Idris was overthrown and a group of young officers, headed by Qaddafi who poses as anti-imperialist, came to power. We can describe this revolt, this movement, as progressive at first, but later it lost its impact and at the moment it has fallen into stagnation. Qaddafi who came to power and claims to be the head of Islam, exploited the Moslem religion [/FONT][FONT=Palatino Linotype, serif]to present Libya as a "progressive", country and even called it "socialist", but in reality the great oil wealth of the country is being exploited for very dubious adventurous and sinister aims. Of course, for purposes of demagogy and because the income from the sale of oil is truly colossal, some changes have been made in the life of the people in the cities, while the poverty-stricken nomads of the desert remain a grave social problem. As we know, Qaddafi was a disciple of Nasser's in politics, ideology and religious belief, as well as in his aims.[/FONT]

Considering Hoxha wasn't fond of Nasser, that doesn't reflect well on el-Qadhafi.

[Red_Struggle]

What was the picture of, again?

[Tommy4ever]

I was unaware tens of thousands protested in the Red Square and Stalin was like "SEND IN THE TANKS" and massacred people.

The Great Purges were more like a manager being picked up by the NKVD and accused of being a joint Polish-British spy, and then "admitting" that other managers were not only involved in his spyring, but also had links to Germany and Japan, and that they operated from a base in northern Persia where they helped give blueprints to Neo-Basmachi rebels in tandem with Ukrainian fascist émigrés based in Romania. Workers actually cheered on the NKVD in many cases and denounced their managers as bourgeois agents or exploiters (as noted by various authors.) Completely innocent people with pro-government records could easily get picked up, interrogated, and executed.

Even in Maoist China, the situation wasn't quite the same.

There weren't mass riots or anything of the sort.

Also no one claims that millions were "counter-revolutionaries." The Great Purges weren't a centrally planned operation.

And now on the subject of this topic, Enver Hoxha spoke about El-Qadhafi in 1980:
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I don't know about China but I can confirm that your analysis of the Great Purges is pretty accurate. This comes from a strongly anti-Stalin communist.

Stalin set up and supported the institutions and movements that would lead to the Great Purge but outside of the high ranking Party killings he had little actual control of what was going on. It was largely carried out by the NKVD - directed by people on the ground who baselessly accused people.

That is very different to ordering the airforce to bomb protestors.

[danyboy27]

Yes.....but for who?

Gadaffi also relies on mercanaries and outside forces. But parts of the military both airforce, infantry and cavalry, are still loyal and are currently shooting (tanks and airplanes) at several cities. Benghazi, Misrath and other places.

outside forces are a logistical burden more than anything else, and their loyalty depend on the money. they wont fight for their lives, if its hopeless they will flee.

he might try to send scatered elements to retake some cities, for exemple send a fews tanks from a brigate to attack bengazi while some mercenaries back them up.

there might also have some marginal units loyal to him, but without efficient support they are doomed.

[brigadista]

no fly zone
UN Security Council
sounds too familiar - all that oil...