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    If this is more than just a pure coincidence, it seems that protests in Egypt are being controlled by the CIA. This is a symbol largely used in the protests against Mubarak:



    ...while this is a symbol of the CIA-funded movement called Otpor (Resistance) in Serbia. The movement existed for a brief time when Milosevic' regime was collapsing and were the major movement in the protests against Milosevic.



    The movement received an MTV award called "Free your mind" and also were involved in organized the protests in Ukraine, which gave them international character. The members of this CIA-funded movement actually flew from Serbia to Ukraine, organizing a protest which later became "Orange revolution".
    The "revolution" was taken to another country after their success in Serbia and Ukraine to Georgia, where they "instructed" students in the organization called "Kmara!".
    After that success, they made another international appearance in Kyrgyzstan, where they created, instructed and funded the movement called "KelKel".

    Now they appeared in Egypt. Notice that all "revolutions" they were involved in made way for people who are very fond of America to come to power. So it might be that the uprising is nothing more than a change in power, with another US candidate being selected for the Egyptian presidential chair.

    Here is a good article that makes sense of the CIA's way to overthrow governments.

    Also, here is a list of all countries and movements that these agents made their way in:



    Like the situation when Milosevic was strip from his powers, this is a PEOPLE's uprising. Nobody is trying to question that. But it seems that CIA's hands are deep into this situation as well.
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    That is strange indeed.


    I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA is micro managing. This may seem strange at first given the position of the US government. But the CIA usually has their own agenda. Basically a logical reasoning behind this from the CIA perspective is undermining the policy to reduce troops and funding for the wars against terror by creating a new hot spot.
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    Now they appeared in Egypt. Notice that all "revolutions" they were involved in made way for people who are very fond of America to come to power. So it might be that the uprising is nothing more than a change in power, with another US candidate being selected for the Egyptian presidential chair.
    I don't think a shaking of the Egyptian regime is at all in the US's interests. Yes, having influence among the democratic national forces if this protest movement does topple the regime is in their interests and no doubt the US is making maneuvers in case that happens. But short of that, the US will most likely do all it can to preserve the status quo in Egypt.

    With the ongoing economic shocks to the economy: a need to push austerity and prevent uprisings due to food price fluctuations and generally ram a broken neo-liberal system even further onto the people of the world, increased imperialist competition, the last thing the US wants are examples of people effectively resisting these conditions. I think the tendency for the US will be to increasingly rely on dictators and strong-men that can effectively repress the population.
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    Well....if you look at the stock markets....they are plumething. Making Egytian assets cheaper than ever. Ample opportunity for traders who want to take risks.
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    Like the situation when Milosevic was strip from his powers, this is a PEOPLE's uprising. Nobody is trying to question that. But it seems that CIA's hands are deep into this situation as well.
    Indeed, if not a coincidence this mainly seems to indicate that the CIA is actively trying to infiltrate/take over the movement -- I guess it would be surprising if they didn't do that --- rather than them being behind it from the start.

    This sounds like a professional group of some kind, sent by the CIA to whereever there is a revolution in order to hijack it and steer it to the right. But I won't say any more now, before I hear more. These are just my spontaneous thoughts.
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    Some outlandish theories forced forward by the use of a raised fist symbol - amongst the most common in workers' movements.
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    this kind of symbol is easy to find over the internet.

    i know folks who can create label out of internet pictures and then iron it on big piece of cloth.
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    Even if that were the case, conspiracies like these actually do not control the world but tend to fail. Only who remembers failed conspiracies? The power of the masses is greater.
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    Even if that were the case, conspiracies like these actually do not control the world but tend to fail. Only who remembers failed conspiracies? The power of the masses is greater.
    This is not a conspiracy theory, but a proven fact. When I was a teenager I used to put stickers and banners of that movement all around my city in 2000. myself and actually believed that they were for real. Note all countries that they were involved in. Literally all of them were "successful" and in literally every single one a clique close to US came to power. And the fact that they are funded, founded and kept working by the Central Intelligence Agency is no secret, or a conspiracy. They spoke about it openly.
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    is this a joke ?
    Its a raised fist symbol, they occur at protests.
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    Some outlandish theories forced forward by the use of a raised fist symbol - amongst the most common in workers' movements.
    I think it's clear that you are a CIA agent.
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    I doubt the CIA is in the working-class neighborhoods of Cairo and Alexandria, organizing popular committees, armed workers' self-defense, worker-to-worker public services (sanitation, food distributions, etc.) and, in a growing number of shops and factories, workers' control of production. Let Egypt's scared petty bourgeois wave their little flags and kiss the cops. Egypt's workers are still leading the way.
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    This is not a conspiracy theory, but a proven fact. When I was a teenager I used to put stickers and banners of that movement all around my city in 2000. myself and actually believed that they were for real. Note all countries that they were involved in. Literally all of them were "successful" and in literally every single one a clique close to US came to power. And the fact that they are funded, founded and kept working by the Central Intelligence Agency is no secret, or a conspiracy. They spoke about it openly.
    That's no proof for the CIA being in Egypt though.

    Fuck I've seen that symbol so many times in my life, I guess the German left is really the CIA.
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    Again.
    These are the symbols of organizations who were founded, led, instructed and financially helped by the members of Otpor.



    They are exactly the same, and that is not some coincidence, but a signature, which they not only don't hide, but are proud of. They received an MTV award for spreading such "democracy" in Serbia and continued to work around the planet

    And it's a very distinct sign, and not just some random raised fist.
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    It does look like the exact same symbol. Not just any fist.
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    I think Sentinel captured the essence of what's going on.

    Indeed, if not a coincidence this mainly seems to indicate that the CIA is actively trying to infiltrate/take over the movement -- I guess it would be surprising if they didn't do that --- rather than them being behind it from the start.

    This sounds like a professional group of some kind, sent by the CIA to whereever there is a revolution in order to hijack it and steer it to the right. But I won't say any more now, before I hear more. These are just my spontaneous thoughts.
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    What people consider to be conspiracy theories is pretty relative. I tell people that bankers and capitalists control the world, they call me a conspiracy theorist, I tell people Israel's agenda is to wipe out as many Palestinians as they can, they call me a conspiracy theorist. That the CIA organises civil unrest in countries all over the world is far from a theory, it's just true. I'm not saying the Egypt protests have anything to do with the CIA...but I'm not saying they don't. I haven't really had time to follow the story close enough to make any judgements.
    That's no proof for the CIA being in Egypt though.
    The CIA are in every country.
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    just like your wiki article said:
    n addition to greatly contributing to Slobodan Milošević's overthrow, Otpor has become the model for similar youth movements around Eastern Europe.[4] For this Otpor members have been called "revolution exporters".


    this is not really surprising that their tactics and symbolics are endlessly copied by many group of people worldwide.
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    I find it a bit weird and amusing how all the CIA-led movements have the same symbol, that's some Illuminati conspiracy shit.
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