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    Default "Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy to a friend."

    Today is Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday. Post some shit if you care. Monday is an officially recognized national holiday. Represent.
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    Happy Birthday, Martin Luther King, Jr.! We Shall Overcome!
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    R.I.P. MLK Jr.
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    Thought it was cool.

    "We are free, truly free, when we don't need to rent our arms to anybody in order to be able to lift a piece of bread to our mouths."
    - Ricardo Flores Magón

    "I am resolved to struggle against everything and everybody."
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    Thank you for posting this. Also in something of a lost time, I feel as if people don't really remember what Martin Luther King's Dream actually was especially after seeing Glenn Beck's march on the capital which had absolutely nothing to do with what King stood for. Although he wasn't a socialist, but he did support the labor movement and he saw racism as more than just the simplistic overview that liberals give it (you know their people just don't like those different to them and are intolerant). He saw it as institutionalized prejudice.
    Anyway regardless of the fact that I don't agree with pacifism or revisionism (the original definition) props to King.
    “How in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30 a.m. by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, shit, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?” Charles Bukowski, Factotum
    "In our glorious fight for civil rights, we must guard against being fooled by false slogans, as 'right-to-work.' It provides no 'rights' and no 'works.' Its purpose is to destroy labor unions and the freedom of collective bargaining... We demand this fraud be stopped." MLK
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    I wish peaceful demonstrations changed things..
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    "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one" - Albert Einstein
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    Anyway regardless of the fact that I don't agree with pacifism or revisionism (the original definition) props to King.
    Glad someone said this, actually.
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    "Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy to a friend."
    You can love your enemy all you want but if they do not cease their actions against you they are still your enemy and you are still suffering. It's much easier for someone outside of a struggle to look in and desire peace between the two but it is not an accurate approach to tactic. It's a third party desire to reach a goal unrelated to the struggle that they are not an immediate part of and as seen- can be as equally harmful as those third party outsiders that knee jerk the advocacy for violence. Diversity of tactics (outside of the common North American understanding of it) is meant to reach a level of competency- not necessarily freedom.



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    You can love your enemy all you want but if they do not cease their actions against you they are still your enemy and you are still suffering. It's much easier for someone outside of a struggle to look in and desire peace between the two but it is not an accurate approach to tactic. It's a third party desire to reach a goal unrelated to the struggle that they are not an immediate part of and as seen- can be as equally harmful as those third party outsiders that knee jerk the advocacy for violence. Diversity of tactics (outside of the common North American understanding of it) is meant to reach a level of competency- not necessarily freedom.



    White liberal doctrine of non-violence
    I see it more along the lines of this:
    At the risk of seeming ridiculous, let me say that the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality.
    Maybe I'm rethinking King tho. Good critique
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    "Love is the only force capable of transforming an enemy to a friend."
    "Without Struggle, there is no Progress" - Douglas.

    R.I.P. MLK, I wish there were movements like the civil rights movement today. R.I.P. "MLK Jr. Day" an "officially recognized holiday" which a memo at my work set to all employees on Jan 1st of this year told us is not really a holiday anymore and we are not going to get a paid day off or overtime for it and a number of other "holidays".

    Video of a presentation on MLK and the sanitation workers campaign he was supporting when he was assassinated:
    http://wearemany.org/v/2008/06/marti...-last-struggle
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    "Without Struggle, there is no Progress" - Douglas.

    R.I.P. MLK, I wish there were movements like the civil rights movement today. R.I.P. "MLK Jr. Day" an "officially recognized holiday" which a memo at my work set to all employees on Jan 1st of this year told us is not really a holiday anymore and we are not going to get a paid day off or overtime for it and a number of other "holidays".

    Video of a presentation on MLK and the sanitation workers campaign he was supporting when he was assassinated:
    http://wearemany.org/v/2008/06/marti...-last-struggle
    So Jimmie, you might be happy to hear, I've joined a union and we're marching on Monday. I'm sure some of your folks (ISO) will be there
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    http://www.cpgb.org.uk/letters.php?issue_id=848



    Mike Macnair’s article, ‘Pause for thought’ (December 16), on the rule of law was well written, but I do have a concern for something that’s missing in the discussion: civil disobedience.

    Even the reformists of the Second International supported illegal actions like peaceful sit-ins or strikes, so long as it didn’t descend into violence proper (and by this, I mean the real violence of smashing windows, burning buildings, etc). It’s like an axis of legal-illegal on the horizontal and peaceful-violent on the vertical.

    The Marxist tradition has it wrong on ‘Peaceful means where possible and violent revolution when necessary’. It should be: ‘Legal means where possible and illegal means when necessary, with the bourgeois authorities determining the level of peace or violence’, emulating more the US civil rights movement under Martin Luther King Jr than the British anti-poll tax action.

    I’d also like to ask comrade Macnair personally, or any other CPGB comrade familiar with law or legal history, this question: if we’re going to scrap the ever-bourgeois idea of rule of law and the slogan ‘law and order’, this means replacing words and processes like legislation. Do we replace this with mere rules and rules-making?
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    Self-interest, mutual self interest, money, and, when sustained for long enough in a controlled environment, overwhelming power, fear, force, and threats, have proven highly capable as well.
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    The real question is, what is love?
    BABY DON'T HURT ME
    DON'T HURT ME
    NO MORE







    Anyway, yes, much love for MLK even if I think his methods alone could never fix things completely.
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    Thank you for posting this. Also in something of a lost time, I feel as if people don't really remember what Martin Luther King's Dream actually was especially after seeing Glenn Beck's march on the capital which had absolutely nothing to do with what King stood for. Although he wasn't a socialist, but he did support the labor movement and he saw racism as more than just the simplistic overview that liberals give it (you know their people just don't like those different to them and are intolerant). He saw it as institutionalized prejudice.
    Anyway regardless of the fact that I don't agree with pacifism or revisionism (the original definition) props to King.
    You are right. It's important to note that towards the end of his life he was becoming more and more outspoken against the war and against poverty. It's unfortunate his life was ended before he could continue with this connection of war, racism and capitalism.
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    You can love your enemy all you want but if they do not cease their actions against you they are still your enemy and you are still suffering.
    Communism isn't love it's a hammer, something about how revolution isn't a dinner party...... combat liberalism....
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    Well...I'd say MLK-day and black history month is nice and all but it will eventually just turn into a new marketing strategy...



    <--- wtf??? Are they for real???


    Love is not the only force that turns enemies into friends. Understanding and compassion will work much, much better.
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    ^I liked the quote, but it's just that, a quote. Not a whole treatise on how to turn enemies to friends.

    That picture, though, man, talk about corporate racism...
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    ^I liked the quote, but it's just that, a quote. Not a whole treatise on how to turn enemies to friends.

    That picture, though, man, talk about corporate racism...
    Yeah...I came across it somewhere....and it took me two or three minutes to register what the hell I was looking at.

    It is widespread unfortunately. I am not going tom use this board as a platform...but another mindboggeling example. THe question is...is it intended or complete stupidity?

    http://images.feedsntweets.com/400_4..._racism_05.jpg

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