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[ComradeAV]

Stickied as the 'official' Tunisia-thread. Please post breaking news from Tunisia here. - Sentinel

Do you believe that Tunisia can become a socialist country? From what I have heard , there is a communist party there that is deeply involved in the recent struggle ? I have also heard that they are marxist-leninist and pro-hoxha. What do you guys think of the chances?

[Blackscare]

I'm not saying that you can't discuss this topic here, but just as a head's up there's already a metric fuckton of threads regarding Tunisia. Since you're a new member I'd like to mention that there's a search function at the top right of the forum.

Now, I'm not saying it's bad that there are several threads regarding this issue (obviously there are various facets/ways we should be talking about this issue, hence threads in various subfora), but there may be/probably is already a thread regarding Tunisia that covers what you're talking about.

[Bright Banana Beard]

Blackscare, can you merge all those Tunisia thread to ongoing struggle

[Nolan]

Do you believe that Tunisia can become a socialist country? From what I have heard , there is a communist party there that is deeply involved in the recent struggle ? I have also heard that they are marxist-leninist and pro-hoxha. What do you guys think of the chances?

Yup they're a member of ICMLPO (the anti-revisionist one).

[Jack]

http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/as...0032011en.html

Several members of the (Marxist-Leninist) Tunisian Communist Workers' Party have been arrested, that's all I know.

[RedScare]

Hoxha, eh? Does that mean if they took power they'd try to construct a state based on the Soviet/Albanian model?

[Jack]

Hoxha, eh? Does that mean if they took power they'd try to construct a state based on the Soviet/Albanian model?

They'd construct a state based on the principles of Marxism-Leninism.

[Lolshevik]

What would those principles be exactly though? Do they recognize the weakness of soviet democracy in Albania as one of the principal causes of the downfall of the workers' state?

[Ismail]

The Tunisian Workers' Communist Party, being an ICMLPO member, probably has the same line on Albania as the PCMLE, PCRCI, etc. They consider Albania to have been the best existing example of a society led by the working class after the 1950's, and broadly agree with Enver Hoxha's views.

Here's a 1997 interview: http://www.mltranslations.org/Tunisia/hammani.htm

[ComradeAV]

Hoxha, eh? Does that mean if they took power they'd try to construct a state based on the Soviet/Albanian model?

Obviously they cannot run the country 100% the same as albania and the SU, since the times are different. But they will run it on the principles of M-l, following the line of marx-engels-lenin-stalin-hoxha.

[Ismail]

WSWS mentioned the party in a predictably dismissive tone:

This makes Hamma Hammami, leader of the still-illegal Workers’ Communist Party of Tunisia (PCOT), a potential key player. PCOT is an Albanian Maoist party aligned with the Workers Communist Party of France (PCOF) and an avowed admirer of Stalin’s tyranny and that of Enver Hoxha. He has also called for a government of national unity. Arrested three days ago, Ghannouchi has now released him.

Hammami has been repeatedly arrested and tortured by the regime. His wife, the lawyer Radhia Nasraoui, and their children have been persistently harassed and interrogated. Hammami has been prominent in the coverage of the Western media. The New York Times named the couple as oppositionists. Their participation in any national unity government would be utilised to lend it false credentials as a decisive break with the old regime.

[scarletghoul]

Here's a 1997 interview: http://www.mltranslations.org/Tunisia/hammani.htm

Hamma Hammani was one of those arrested. He has since been released. The fact that theyd arrest a spokesman suggests that the party has some significance, though ive no idea how much

[ComradeAV]

WSWS mentioned the party in a predictably dismissive tone:

Well obviously, wsws is a anti-stalin, anti -hoxha website. I think its full pro-trotskyists. However, they do have some good articles.

[Red Rebel]

As Jack mentioned the founder of the Tunisian Workers' Communist Party was detained before the dictator fled. He then released sortly thereafter.

But your question is: was there protests about a poor economic situation and where communists involved? I was under the impression that communists, leftists, radicals, and revolutionaries are defacto the main cause of protests.

[Gustav HK]

Why doesn´t Tunisia has its own Ongoing Struggle sub-sub forum?

[Quetzal]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmL7wBqzTk

German - Tunesians thank anonymous for their help in the revolution.

With English subs.

[William Howe]

I agree with Gustav.

[Obs]

Why doesn´t Tunisia has its own Ongoing Struggle sub-sub forum?

If they do make one (I doubt it), it should probably be about the entirety of Maghreb, since the anti-government sentiment is spreading from Tunisia.

[Gustav HK]

They made one about Iran, when there were big protests there.

So they certainly should make one about Tunisia (or the Arab-African region)

[Dimentio]

Do you believe that Tunisia can become a socialist country? From what I have heard , there is a communist party there that is deeply involved in the recent struggle ? I have also heard that they are marxist-leninist and pro-hoxha. What do you guys think of the chances?

Unlikely. About as likely as the Pirate Party gaining power.

The likelihood is even greater for the islamists to take power.

You could perhaps create some kind of socialist/populist country, but Tunisian Marxism-Leninism is doomed to fail because there are no ideologically sympathetic superpowers in the world.