i doubt it that the us will admit it if it wasnt him.. it would make them lose their credebelity towards their ppl... bin laden is simply the easiest way out...
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Hello everyone,
I am a new member to this community and I appreciate the important topics and issues being discussed here. Since this is a political forum I would like to hear your ideas on the following:
What if Bin Ladin isn't behind the terrorist attacks in the US?
I am neither defending him nor accusing him, however, it is my understanding that a majority of people who are are closely following these events understand that the US govt. still has no concrete proof that Afghanistan or the Taliban are behind this. Sure they found a few manuals written in Arabic, a handful of suspects and thousands of other leads, but it seems like no one has still connected the dots to find the so-called "mastermind". Everything sooms either too obvious or too complex.
Being as objective as possible, it is fair to say that there are other parties or organizations that could behind the attacks. Take the "Mossad" for example. A recent survey in the US showed that a large majority of Americans believed that Bin Ladin was the culprit. The interesting thing here is that the second largest majority thought that the "Mossad" was to blame. This is very important information and could lead to an unexpected twist to this whole case.
Who is right is still not clear, however, does anyone have any othe theories about this? If Bin Ladin turns out to be innocent will the US admit it? How will the American media react?
Thanks to all...
i doubt it that the us will admit it if it wasnt him.. it would make them lose their credebelity towards their ppl... bin laden is simply the easiest way out...
\"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don’t believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn’t want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I’m not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn’t know how
the us allways needs a face to put it in the toilet paper and t-shirts, thats the way they go , bussines is bussines
la riqueza de unos pocos es un insulto frente a la pobreza de las grandes masas. marcos EZLN
come on ..
who really believes that laden did it?
have you seen any proof?
people now are
brainwashed, brainwashed, brainwashed
for the love of love
frankly it doesn't matter if bin laden didn't do it. the us has wanted bin laden foryears and this has given them the chance togo after him. if their wrong the will never admit it. if they are right they will show off their spoils of war even more.
and your right the evidence seems somewhat suspect but remember we don't have all the evidence the us gov't has either.
I AM THE PERFECT ME!
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about the evidence as well. it may seem suspect to us but lets not forget we aren't the majority. all of us here are educated and intelligent. not all americans are. not all americans will sift through the evidence and see the holes in it. i'm sure many are just accepting it blindly.
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what ur saying nick is very true most of the american ppl can be totally and easily manipulated into believing whatever their government wants them to believe because of their lack of knowledge and concern in issues that surpass their stupid issues of daily life...
Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.
Bertrand Russell
To add to your comments, I heard the associate editor of The Washington Post say on CNN that the US media has been bringing nothing other than national news to its people for over 20 years. That means no worldwide news, no mention of the sufferings all over the globe. As if these sufferings could be excused since they did not affect the US directly.
yeah nickadumes...
the US government wanted him for years.
the event on sept 11th is what provoked the US to go nuts. no matter if he is responsible for the kamikazes.
he still isn't innocent for the past crimes.
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Since the day I was born I had a wonderful dream
To make people hurt to make people scream
I wanna fight you but you don't dare
I spit on your face and you just stare
I beat you down and the cops don't care
Stab you in the chest
Right through the flesh
Shove the knife in deep
Cause life is cheap
Like hookers from Budapest
"To add to your comments, I heard the associate editor of The Washington Post say on CNN that the US media has been bringing nothing other than national news to its people for over 20 years. That means no worldwide news, no mention of the sufferings all over the globe. As if these sufferings could be excused since they did not affect the US directly. "
-DeepRX
this is true. however, some journalists and ancors, like dan rather, are trying to change that and have been. rather has said that the industry (afterall that's what it is) thinks that international news is bad for business. and they are right.
\"One murder makes a villain...millions a hero. Numbers sanctify, my friend.\" -Charlie Chaplin
but CPK, most of his past crimes r not proven against him either.. am i wrong about that?
\"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don’t believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn’t want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I’m not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn’t know how
can anyone say guilty until proven innocent?
This is <span style=\'color:red\'>my</span> rifle. There are many like it but this one is <span style=\'color:red\'>mine</span>.
Since the day I was born I had a wonderful dream
To make people hurt to make people scream
I wanna fight you but you don't dare
I spit on your face and you just stare
I beat you down and the cops don't care
Stab you in the chest
Right through the flesh
Shove the knife in deep
Cause life is cheap
Like hookers from Budapest
lol i had to read that several time to see what u wrote... i dont think that that would be fair.. its prejudice...
\"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don’t believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn’t want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I’m not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn’t know how
truely cpk is right. in int'l law one is often guilty without proof.
I AM THE PERFECT ME!
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.15
But I thought that in US law one is innocent untill proven Guilty. Surely we don't have a double standard of the law for Americans and Non americans...
In Solidarity,
RC
that's a toughy.
it's what i thought too.
make sense? i think no.
This is <span style=\'color:red\'>my</span> rifle. There are many like it but this one is <span style=\'color:red\'>mine</span>.
Since the day I was born I had a wonderful dream
To make people hurt to make people scream
I wanna fight you but you don't dare
I spit on your face and you just stare
I beat you down and the cops don't care
Stab you in the chest
Right through the flesh
Shove the knife in deep
Cause life is cheap
Like hookers from Budapest
good thing i didnt accuse international law of being "fair"... thus it might verywell use CPK's "guilty till proven innocent"...
\"I believe in the brotherhood of man, all men, but I don’t believe in brotherhood with anybody who doesn’t want brotherhood with me. I believe in treating people right, but I’m not going to waste my time trying to treat somebody right who doesn’t know how
No Chief Rebel, it's not fair... We have evolved past the hang 'em judges of the old west and have a court system where one must be proven guilty beyond a resonable doubt. Where one is provided full representation within a court of law. Yet because Bin Laden isn't in the US Cowboy Georgie can send out the Possie to go round him up and post up " Wanted Dead or Alive" posters everywhere. Charie Manson was innocent untill proven guilty, so was Jeffery Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, and good ol' Timmothy McVeigh.
(Edited by RedCeltic at 12:26 pm on Oct. 1, 2001)
In Solidarity,
RC
We will never know. One way or the other it will be classified till we are all dead and maybe longer. I find it interesting that the topics that seem most likely to cause dissent in America are the ones we NEVER get access to even in this age of freedom of Information Act policies. They just reclassify it.
Ask not what your country can do for you, or what you can do for your country. Ask what you can do for one another.
