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    No, I (co-)own real estate.

    I'm the co-signer on my father's house.
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    I am pretty sure that owning a home/land that you live on doesn't count as "private"!

    But maybe I'm wrong and it's nitpicking anyway.
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    I am pretty sure that owning a home/land that you live on doesn't count as "private"!

    But maybe I'm wrong and it's nitpicking anyway.
    we could move out and rent it out, or we could sub-let.

    Where the property is located, we can apply to have it re-zoned as commercial property. The only zoning limitations is industrial.

    As is, it is only a personal residence, but owning real estate gives potential to make a profit off of "owning" land.
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    we could move out and rent it out, or we could sub-let.

    Where the property is located, we can apply to have it re-zoned as commercial property. The only zoning limitations is industrial.

    As is, it is only a personal residence, but owning real estate gives potential to make a profit off of "owning" land.
    Do you and your father have anywhere else to live? Otherwise I'd say that still counts as personal property.
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    Does anyone here not fall into the category (potentially) of being an owner of private property....? FFS

    This thread is stupid.
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    Do you and your father have anywhere else to live? Otherwise I'd say that still counts as personal property.
    My family, no.
    Myself, I moved out of my apartment and here temporarily; I have an alternative.

    I suppose I can get on board in that case, though. I'm only co-signer because I had better credit.

    Does anyone here not fall into the category (potentially) of being an owner of private property....? FFS

    This thread is stupid.
    Whether it's owning private property, or taking a job as wage slave, or obeying laws or paying taxes to the state, I doubt anybody here is innocent of engaging in, or relenting to, the status quo.

    It's a matter of survival, it's a matter of picking your battles.

    We need to get through today if we hope to make a better tomorrow.

    And, yes, I agree, this thread is stupid.
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    ^^^^^^^^ Exactly.
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    My family, no.
    Myself, I moved out of my apartment and here temporarily; I have an alternative.

    I suppose I can get on board in that case, though. I'm only co-signer because I had better credit.
    In that case, you hardly strike me as being in a position to make money off the fact you have a flat.

    Hang on though - credit? If you've got a mortgage or something similar, then you don't really own the place - the bank/building society does (which is why they have the legal right to kick you out for not keeping up on payments).
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    Well then how about if I own 100 acres of land? I raise some goats on it for my own consumption and that's about it. I don't make any money off of the land at all.
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    In that case, you hardly strike me as being in a position to make money off the fact you have a flat.

    Hang on though - credit? If you've got a mortgage or something similar, then you don't really own the place - the bank/building society does (which is why they have the legal right to kick you out for not keeping up on payments).
    It's not mortgaged.

    My granddad built the house in the 20's-'30s. Several years ago, before he died, he for some inexplicable reason stopped paying property taxes. The IRS told my father that if he didn't pay 10+ years of back taxes within a certain time-frame (I think the deadline was last November), they'd seize the house.

    My father got a bank loan (not mortgage) to pay to keep the house. The bank required him to get a co-signer. [edit: my car is also the collateral]

    Long story short, as far as the IRS is concerned, I helped to pay the taxes, so my granddad's estate upon death(a shitty old house that would not pass code, with no heat or hot water, and a partially collapsed roof) was split between myself and my father.

    Thank you for taking this detour from the original topic, and I hope you chose me for your further digressing rants.
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    It's not mortgaged.

    My granddad built the house in the 20's-'30s. Several years ago, before he died, he for some inexplicable reason stopped paying property taxes. The IRS told my father that if he didn't pay 10+ years of back taxes within a certain time-frame (I think the deadline was last November), they'd seize the house.
    An aside:

    Tax lien forclosure are getting to be a MAJOR business these days. You can buy an entire house for a few thousand dollars. People often don't pay the taxes for a while owe maybe $1000 dollars, but once the lawyer fees and government fees are added they end up owing maybe $5000--the government then sells these on the internet--and people buy them and forclose on the house.

    If you have a mortage on the property--the mortage company covers for you, but if you own the house out right--you could be in a lot of trouble. Bank of America is a big player in this business.

    Be careful.
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    An aside:

    Tax lien forclosure are getting to be a MAJOR business these days. You can buy an entire house for a few thousand dollars. People often don't pay the taxes for a while owe maybe $1000 dollars, but once the lawyer fees and government fees are added they end up owing maybe $5000--the government then sells these on the internet--and people buy them and forclose on the house.

    If you have a mortage on the property--the mortage company covers for you, but if you own the house out right--you could be in a lot of trouble. Bank of America is a big player in this business.

    Be careful.
    So true.
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    Redstar2000 never owned land, a home, much less made money off tenants. I lived in low income areas of town his whole life, not that that proves he is a Capitalist or not.

    And quite frankly if he knew there was a copy right on his work on a site that he cant even get to to edit, he would hit the roof.

    Therefore I am making the decision to not even bring it up. Until he reads it himself.
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    in most capitalist jurisdictions, a copyright automatically belongs to the creator of anything unless explicitly and in writing renounced (e.g., by tacking on the GPL license or agreeing to use facebook and subsequently uploading a photo). So RS2K's alleged assertion was in any case somewhat redundant.
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