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Did you know the U.S. is already Marxist???
It's true! According to the latest piece of conservative propaganda churned out ["Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America"] we've been "cultural Marxists" since the sixties! Disband your organizations, stop the protests, we've already won!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdNZpKBZf4c
Lol! Glenn Beck couldn't have even made a movie this out there.
Seriously, I think an actual Marxist needs to write a lengthy review of this shit to explain to people who may watch it how ridiculous it is.
Last edited by NewSocialist; 11th December 2010 at 09:38.
Beck isn't the first one to use the whole "Cultural Marxism" angle, it always pops up when people try to find an excuse to justify the whole "Communists are working within the government and social institutions to make Americans accept Communism" type deal. It's a big scary word that not many people know much about, so it's perfect to throw around aimlessly like "socialist" or "political correctness" (for comparison, our excessive usage of "reactionary" or "fascist').
You can find it being spammed pretty much any time in the past 30 years.
Last edited by Red Commissar; 11th December 2010 at 18:25.
Well, that makes things easier, then.
i don't understand why so many posters on here have such raging hard-ons for rightwing american pundits and the boring generic things they say.
Right-wing pundits, at least in the U.S., are very influential among large portions of the working class--that's why. So when you have a concentrated effort to mislead working people about what Marxism and socialism are, it's important to counter their claims if you want to ensure those lies don't gain any traction.
Last edited by NewSocialist; 24th December 2010 at 13:31.
My stepdad reads Beck et alia, but who cares what HE thinks?
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I agree with '9' totally here. I think it also reflects a misunderstanding of what the role of today's tiny revolutionary organisations is. It is not a question about small groups of people trying to outcompete the mass media, and "counter their claims" on their terms. This is a battle that will invariably be lost. Instead it is a question of involvement and intervention where people are in struggle.
Devrim
i got better things to do than think that the bullshit they spew matters. i also post on the sean hannity forums and theyre so stupid and misled that i cannot even consider them a threat.
Except those are the people corporations fund.
boo hoo, theyre still stupid and anyone with half a brain can discount millions of dollars of corporate donations.
Did you know that Sarah palin was almost vice president? Idiots with power are dangerous.
Why would Sarah Palin be any more dangerous than any other Vice President?
Devrim
Did you know that Barack Obama is President?
yeah and sarah palin being almost vice president sunk the republican campaign single handedly.
I'd much rather have an intelligent person in power than an idiot, Obama is a anbashed corporatist and so on, but having someone who's an idiot, like Bush, kills people.
I would'nt say that.
Because she's insane ....
Both Castro and Kim Ill are dictators, but I would much much much much rather live under Castro, because Kim is insane, and Castro is reasonable.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
OMG they were communists, they used the phrase "we the People" they talk about common defence and "general Welfare" OMG OMG they were communists!!!
LOL!!!
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That fails to take into consideration the millions of Americans who tune into right-wing radio shows, read news papers and magazines with a right-wing bias, or listen to conservative conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones.
Something like 60% of Americans don't vote, many of the ones who do are strongly influenced by media bias. In the case of Marxism and socialism, countless people will watch documentaries like these or hear Glenn Beck equate socialism with genocide and will never look into the philosophy again. The ones who do won't find any answers from us because, apparently, we're too good to counter reactionary lies "on their terms."
"Cultural Marxism" was invented by old anti-Communists who had trouble explaining why their allegedly "Communist-dominated" America was continually pursuing pro-capitalist policies, and increasingly privatizing everything it could. Sooner or later some of the followers who ask something like, "Wait a minute, if we are being taken over by Communists, how do you explain all this privatization, the tax cuts, etc."
If you don't believe me try bracing some of these idiot right-wingers on blogs who claim America is "Marxist"(preferably racialists, as nowadays lots of yahoos are calling America Marxist), pointing out that America's policies have been increasingly oriented toward the free market. If you got the right lolcow, he or sh...no, sorry, he will proceed explain that while America is indeed capitalist economically, it has been dominated for some time by "cultural Marxism". Ask them to explain what this is and they will usually disappear. Occasionally they will claim it is "the economic ideas of Karl Marx applied to culture." Then ask them which economic theories they mean, and again, they will disappear.
It is not a question of being "too good" to do it. To put it quite simply tiny revolutionary groups don't have the ability to compete with the mass media on its own terms.
The task of revolutionaries is too take part in struggles where people are already beginning to question the dominant ideology, and are looking for different ways to understand the world. Class consciousness is something that develops through collective struggle, not from the media produced by tiny groups of people trying to out compete huge corporations in the market place.
I don't think there is any real reason to think that Kim is actually insane. He defends his own interests and those of his class.Originally Posted by RGacky3
Palin like any US Vice_President would end up defending the interests of the US bourgeoisie.
Devrim
