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Rape culture
Whatchyall think about it?
It seems to me to be restricting and problematic in that it ignores the culture of violence of which sexual violence is a part. All of the traits of rape culture such as dehumanizing, objectification, and victim blaming are prevalent outside of the realm of sexual violence. I mean, last year I saw Brooklyn's Finest (fuck you, it was for free and I was really trashed, so why not?) and people in the theater were laughing during a scene depicting two drugged up sex slaves, but they were also laughing when a guy got shot in his stomach. Justifying or apologizing for someone's rape by saying "well she shouldn't have dressed like such a slut" or something like that is no different from someone apologizing for me getting my ass kicked by saying "that fag shouldn't have been wearing make-up". In both cases, blame is placed on the victim. Racial violence is also based largely on dehumanization and victim blaming: "fuckin monkey came to the wrong side of town". Anyway, yeah... ideas?
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Someone wanna move this to Women's Struggles? My bad
Moved. - Rjevan
Last edited by Rjevan; 9th December 2010 at 09:46.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
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Rape culture? Define its boundries because too often in this section of the site likes to call people all kinds of names then get people banned. Before I've answered no to a yes or no question about sex with a post operation transexual and been deemed transphobe and probably in later pages Adolf Hitler.
I'm walking into this knowing full certain that people hate others and sit with a hair trigger hoping to trap instead of educate others by in their posts, brand them as rapist enablers or whatever and have them removed. Ok, that's a bit ranty but this place never seems to have a strong moderation promoting education. Its always the spiders web where you poke your nose in for some knowledge in the hope that you dont look more bigoted that some other guy.
Here's an example of rape culture though: Punitive rape is seen as grimly hilarious. Theres a notion that if you commit enough crimes you should be raped by, normally a fat black man named bubba. Rape is societies punishment in jail. Its the big thing to scare people off jail. You never hear people scared of knife fights, and my friend who was going to join the army wasn't phased by anything else he was told until I mentioned someone secondarily close who had to go AWOL for 2 years to escape gang rape. That's it from my hetero male perspective when we're talking rape culture from the recieving end.
EDIT: I didnt see this was in women's struggles, the top page mislead me.
I don't really get the point of this thread. Maybe its because I'm drunk, I don't know, but I'll say for sure that I fucking despise rape culture and this whole notion that rape is acceptable and even humorous to people.
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The fact that rape culture is part of a larger culture of violence doesn't make it a useless or dangerous concept.
"Unless revolution uproots the basic social organisation, the biological family - the vinculum through which the psychology of power can always be smuggled - the tapeworm of exploitation will never be annihilated."
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That's not at all my intention, I want to open up a discourse on this topic with the purpose of educating people, myself included.
A culture in which rape is normalized and deemed okay or dismissible depending on the circumstances through things such as victim blaming, dehumanization of the victim(s), and objectification.
Well, actually you do hear of people scared of knife fights, but that's just a side note. Your example is a perfect one in exhibiting rape's place in a culture of violence. Many of the justifications behind apologists for rape are predicated upon an assertion of masculinity. The need for a man -- particularly a man emasculated due to his class position -- to display or validate his masculinity by forcibly having sex with a woman isn't at all different from the same guy needed to validate and reinforce his masculinity by kicking the shit out of some gay person or fighting some guy cause he glanced at his girlfriend.
Prison rape is a by-product of the powerlessness felt by inmates, but it doesn't strike me as being fundamentally any different from a bunch of guys having a boot party.
You seem neat, but...
They divide us by our color, they divide us by our tongue,
They divide us men and women, they divide us old and young,
But they'll tremble at our voices when they hear these verses sung,
For the Union makes us strong!
