Another giant Wikileaks...leak

[IndependentCitizen]

When's it being uploaded for us to download? I'm really interested.

[Pretty Flaco]

If you don't mind me asking, who exactly is the PKK?

Wikipedia says they're "revolutionary socialists" but why would the US be funding a bunch of commies?

[Widerstand]

The PKK is a Kurdish national/ethnic liberation movement. They certainly have socialist undertones, but I'm not sure to what extent.

[Blackscare]

If you don't mind me asking, who exactly is the PKK?

Wikipedia says they're "revolutionary socialists" but why would the US be funding a bunch of commies?

Sometimes it's hard to tell. For instance, there was a period of time I believe when two different intelligence agencies of the US were funding Laotian Communists and Nationalists, respectively. Then of course they realized what each other were doing and decided to only support the Nationalists (or Monarchists?)

[maskerade]

dammit when are these leaks coming out?!

Also, am I the only one who is amused over the fact that the State department has been notifying allied governments that these leaks might be embarrassing? I mean, why is no one asking why those things were done in the first place?

[Spawn of Stalin]

The PKK is the Kurdish Workers' Party, they used to be extremely revolutionary with some Marxist-Leninist and Maoist tendencies, now they are mostly just nationalist. Don't get me wrong, Kurdish nationalism is a good thing but without anti-capitalism it is ultimately pretty useless. I was not aware that the US funded them, they have them listed as a terrorist group and have arrested and detained suspected PKK members in Iraq. There were rumours that they were being funded by the Iranian state but I'm not sure if that's true, but there are definitely PKK fighters of Iranian origin. They have links with Palestinian groups with whom they have trained in Syria and Lebanon. I believe that most of their funding actually comes from within Turkey.

[Spawn of Stalin]

But what does that have to do with wikileaks?

[Widerstand]

But what does that have to do with wikileaks?

Some article linked earlier rumored that the USA funded the PKK and that the upcoming leak revealed that.

[Spawn of Stalin]

Ah okay, I see. Well I'm assuming that given the fact that the government has sent a D-notice to all the papers and TV stations that it is something that could be quite damaging.

[Fulanito de Tal]

Where are these history changing leaks?! I'm going crazy!! FUCK!

[Widerstand]

Where are these history changing leaks?! I'm going crazy!! FUCK!

YEah, where are they?

[ckaihatsu]

Wikileaks said it would change world history, so we'll see.

Where are these history changing leaks?! I'm going crazy!! FUCK!

The Wikileaks leak, once received, will cause everyone to take up their history books into their uncontrollably jittering grasp, to stare blank-eyed at them for several hours, finally hurling them gorilla-like into the streets in total disgust. (Etc....)


= D

[Rusty Shackleford]

this one is supposed to be made up of a fuckton(the scientific term for how many shitloads of cables in this file) of messages relayed from ambassadors and so on about their meetings with other nations and nationals.

so, what could be in here is objectives, goals, mistakes and so on in foreign relations between the US and practically everyone.

maybe the US will be the next "reclusive state" that "rattles its sword" because it'll lose all credibility

[ckaihatsu]

maybe the US will be the next "reclusive state" that "rattles its sword" because it'll lose all credibility

The rest of the world will immediately incinerate all of their holdings of U.S. dollars and instead use beads and stones for international monetary transactions.

[Rusty Shackleford]

The rest of the world will immediately incinerate all of their holdings of U.S. dollars and instead use beads and stones for international monetary transactions.

that or the Euro oh wait, thats failing hard


The Sucre will beat all!

[Ligeia]

Maybe they are waiting for all involved governments to be briefed by the U.S. government?
At least, looking at their Twitter account...they are posting who's been contacted by the U.S. government all the time. And also their news central contains a little list of all the countries that have been informed like a sticky note.
They've also send the leaks to news papers first (New York Times, Spiegel, Guardian, Le Monde, El Pais) for them to be processed. So ... maybe they still haven't finished or something....
And New York Times has informed the U.S. government over details, thus they started briefing other governments.

Alan Rusbridger, editor of the Guardian, said tonight: "I appreciate why the DA notice might make people anxious. But, from my reading of the WikiLeaks material, only a tiny part of it is covered or relevant."

source

[Widerstand]

Whatever they are doing, they are boring as fuck, and if this thing is gonna suck, then many kittens will die.

[Fulanito de Tal]

According to this article, the documents are concerning Russia too.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=22117

WikiLeaks has announced release of State Department Secret Correspondence

Whistleblower website WikiLeaks, which has published hundreds of U.S. war logs, has announced a pending release of the U.S. Department of State's secret correspondence, a Russian business daily said on Friday.
Kommersant daily said that WikiLeaks was preparing to unveil messages between the U.S. State Department and U.S. embassies around the world, including in Moscow.

The documents contain the U.S. evaluation of the political situation in Russia and the unflattering characteristics of some Russian leaders, Kommersant cited a WikiLeaks source as saying.

On Wednesday, U.S. State Department's Assistant Secretary Philip Crowley said that the possible release would "put national interests at risk."

"We are prepared if this upcoming tranche of documents includes State Department cables. We are in touch with our posts around the world. They have begun the process of notifying governments that [the] release of documents is possible in the near future," Kommersant quoted Crowley as saying.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her deputies started calling to world governments, Kommersant said. Moscow has not been notified from the United States yet, the daily quoted an official in the Russian Foreign Ministry as saying.

"These revelations are harmful to the United States and our interests. They are going to create tension in our relationships between our diplomats and our friends around the world," Crowley said, adding that the United States was prepared for the worst outcome.

Rusian Reporter weekly is the only Russian magazine, along with U.S. and German media, which received WikiLeaks materials in advance to prepare publications and alalysis, Rusian Reporter said on its web site.

The main suspect in the leak of these documents, along with the previous logs, is jailed U.S. Private Bradley Manning, who had top-secret clearance as an intelligence analyst for the Army when he was stationed in Iraq.

Pentagon investigators believe that Manning has accessed a worldwide military classified Internet and e-mail system to download the documents.

Manning, 22, was charged in June with several violations of the U.S. Criminal Code for allegedly transferring classified data without authorization.

The WikiLeaks website does not have a central office or any paid staff and its operations are run only by a small dedicated team and some 800 volunteers.

Wikileaks' founder, Australian activist Julian Assange, has no home address but he often pops up in Sweden and Iceland, where Internet anonymity is protected by laws. He is being hunted by Pentagon investigators and is suspected of releasing confidential U.S. State Department documents.

MOSCOW, November 26 (RIA Novosti)

[Sosa]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...s-friends.html

It has been claimed that a backlash by countries upset over the leaks may lead to U.S. diplomats being expelled.

The next release is expected to include thousands of diplomatic cables reporting allegations of corruption against politicians in Russia, Afghanistan and other Central Asian nations.
But there were no specific details as to the nature of the corruption allegations or which governments are involved.

However, according to the UK-based Arabic daily newspaper al-Hayat, the WikiLeaks release includes documents that show Turkey has helped Al Qaeda in Iraq - an extraordinary revelation which could kill off the country’s hopes of joining the EU.

[Morgenstern]

Wikileaks is trying to build up hype, it's understandable. The media will keep on reporting as long as this stand off occurs.