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    so I'm a long way from being a communist butI'm anti-imperialist, anti-racist, anti-war, pro-democracy, and for freedom for the third world and rights for working people everywhere. so, who can I get involved with that isn't some crazy sect? I looked at RESPECT but they don't seem to have much on. The solidarity campaigns with Latin America are also interesting. Is there any other broad left grouping worth looking at?
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    Well your politics sound kind of vague so it would probable be best to find out what specific campaigns are going on in your area and join in with the ones you agree with rather than joining a specific political group.
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    I'm broad, not vague. Basically, is there any serious left-wing reformist group that I'm missing out on or do you have to be in the Labour left?

    RESPECT seem ok (though quite ultra on some things), but they don't have any activities on their website since June, so AFAIK they seem inactive.
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    I'm broad, not vague.
    its the same thing

    Basically, is there any serious left-wing reformist group that I'm missing out on or do you have to be in the Labour left?
    there are no serious reformist groups, the idea is absurd, and labour isn't even reformist

    RESPECT seem ok (though quite ultra on some things), but they don't have any activities on their website since June, so AFAIK they seem inactive.
    i think they were originally a front for the swp. What do you mean by ultra?
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    i think they were originally a front for the swp.
    no, they kicked out the SWP.

    What do you mean by ultra?
    Too much like the ultra-left, not so much in politics but in their attitudes (petty campaigns, hyperbole, etc.) Having said this, they are still one of the best out there.
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    RESPECT were part of the SWP? interesting.....

    I don't know of any soc-dem parties but perhaps Labour suits your politics best. Even though they are only there to lead the working class away from emancipation and could be charged with hindering the workers movement as much as any right wing party but that's what reformism does. Alternately you could try going to a Socialist Workers Party meeting, although on this forum they are almost as unpopular as Labour my advice is try a few parties go along to some meetings talk to the people and see what you like best.
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    ^^^To answer the question, SWP was part of RESPECT, but RESPECT kicked them out.
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    If you label yourself "progressive" then join the green party.
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    ^^^There's something about them I don't like. Plus I'm not an environmentalist.

    It's a shae we don't have a Die Linke or Bloco de Esquerda in the UK (not to mention a PSUV). There really is not much for a centre-left person to get involved in.
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    no, they kicked out the SWP.
    i think the swp were involved in setting it up in order to use it as a front

    Too much like the ultra-left, not so much in politics but in their attitudes (petty campaigns, hyperbole, etc.) Having said this, they are still one of the best out there.

    i cant believe anyone would call respect ultra left, its really quit mental
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    Why not just join the SWP, if you're into progressive campaigning but don't want to commit to a revolution.
    (this is sincere, not a dig at swp)
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    Left wing reformists? How about these guys?

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    [QUOTE=revolution inaction;1930318]
    i think the swp were involved in setting it up in order to use it as a front
    If this was their intention, it didn't work.

    i cant believe anyone would call respect ultra left, its really quit mental
    At least 95% of the population would call RESPECT ultra-left.
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    Why not just join the SWP, if you're into progressive campaigning but don't want to commit to a revolution.
    (this is sincere, not a dig at swp)

    Are you sure about this? My experience of them is that they're highly dogmatic and religiously convinced that the working class will take power, and that every social interaction you make is an oppression of women/ethnic minorities/teh yout/the disabled/lesbians/pandas/etc.
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    Maybe you should look at a local community organisation. Quite alot are sprining up against the cuts and will hopefully consist of members of a wide range of different organastions. That way you can speak to local people in the different organisations and get a feel for them as people as well as what they are active in.

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    Why not just join the SWP, if you're into selling papers, recruiting, using every campaign as an opportunity to form front groups, handing over antifascists to the police and don't want to commit to a revolution.
    (this is sincere, not a dig at swp)
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    seriously, don't be advising people who clearly don't have worked out politics to join shity "revolutionry" organisations.
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    the Labour party .......... No, just kidding. I don't know much about the british left, but the IWW is out there.
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    I was going to suggest SDS but then I noticed you were in the UK. Isn't there an equivalent to the SDS in UK?
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    There really is not much for a centre-left person to get involved in.
    Well then I have some advice for you...... become far left!
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    I concur with this comrade right here.
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