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    Is anyone from RevLeft planning on going to the rally by Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert on the national mall?
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    Why would anybody here want to go to a rally that is explicitly anti-communist?
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    Why would anybody here want to go to a rally that is explicitly anti-communist?
    How is it explicitly anti-communist?
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    Its not anti-communist, someone may go if its funny...

    But not as a political movement, they do not represent our agenda.
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    It is anti-communist the whole basis is "shunning radicalism" and embracing "moderation". In the promotion for it Stewart compared anti-war activists (code pink) to nazis (minutemen anti-immigration people).

    The rally is for sanity and moderation, that is the opposite of communism. We don't want that, we want insanity and revolution.
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    The rally is for sanity and moderation, that is the opposite of communism. We don't want that, we want insanity and revolution.


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    The rally is for sanity and moderation, that is the opposite of communism. We don't want that, we want insanity and revolution.
    I get what you're trying to say here in rhetoric, but I don't think communists stand for "insanity." In fact, the idea of "moderation" in a capitalist system well beyond such is insane in itself. Communists are the sane ones, because we recognize this fact.
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    I get what you're trying to say here in rhetoric, but I don't think communists stand for "insanity." In fact, the idea of "moderation" in a capitalist system well beyond such is insane in itself. Communists are the sane ones, because we recognize this fact.
    Yeah, sorry.

    I meant we want insanity, because what we want is insane in the minds of people like Stewart.
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    "whatever they might make would never be the same as that world of dark streets and bright dreams"

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    Let's get a bunch of us reds there too. Overtake the "moderate march."
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    It is anti-communist the whole basis is "shunning radicalism" and embracing "moderation". In the promotion for it Stewart compared anti-war activists (code pink) to nazis (minutemen anti-immigration people).

    The rally is for sanity and moderation, that is the opposite of communism. We don't want that, we want insanity and revolution.
    I agree. Although rather than "keep fear alive" for colbert's thing, they should have called it "keep radicalism alive." But that may be a tad too "radical" for their corporate overlords.

    I wonder whose sponsoring them?
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    Jon Stewarts rally is explicitly opposed to radicalism, fuck that. I used to think he was at least center-left (albeit not radical), but in reality he's not, at least not anymore. He seems to have taken the turn from being a 70's type social democrat towards being dead center (in reality, right wing) as of somewhat recently.

    Colberts on the other hand (rally to maintain fear) I'd be totally down with if it weren't for it being coupled with Stewarts.
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    Let's get a bunch of us reds there too. Overtake the "moderate march."
    I certainly wouldn't mind seeing a "Red Bloc" (all dressed in red, of course) and "Black Bloc" working together and entering this carnival of the absurd to send Stewart and Colbert into apoplexy.
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    If Stewart and Colbert are "center" in this country, we are surely in trouble...
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    Haha guys i was just asking, I think Jon Stewart is funny but that's about it. And I've got the feeling that the rally is more of a comedy act than actually a rally to spread a political agenda. I'm bringing a sign that says "Capitalists are ****s"
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    I would love to overtake the moderate rally, but would we ever get enough people there to make any substantial impact?
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    How is it explicitly anti-communist?
    [FONT=Verdana]If you ever read his book called "Earth: Everything An Alien Tourist Needs To Know About The Planet After Human Beings Are Gone"[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Verdana]You can clearly see that he is anti-communist. The book goes on to talk about the 'evils' of communism and how useless democracy is. [/FONT]
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    Jon has said officially that this "Won't be political at all".

    Regardless, this 'Million Molotov March' idea? Brilliant. Comrades need to get down there.

    Jon needs to see that the working class he is supposedly appealing too can only be saved through the movements he's called insane. He shot down the sane solution.
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    [FONT=Verdana]If you ever read his book called "Earth: Everything An Alien Tourist Needs To Know About The Planet After Human Beings Are Gone"[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana]You can clearly see that he is anti-communist. The book goes on to talk about the 'evils' of communism and how useless democracy is. [/FONT]
    I just downloaded the audiobook (took 3 minutes) and just started listening to it. I enjoy Jon Stewart, and so far I've found the whole book hilarious. I haven't got to the 'evils of Communism' part yet... But when he says stuff like in the chapter 'Earth' at the 12:30 part, I feel he understands that this is exploitation, and that he's likely reasonable and sane enough to one day actually understand communism.

    I could be totally fooled by him, lol, but I hope I'm not. He's fun.

    Edit: In 'Commerce' of the audiobook, at the 10:54 mark, Jon says "All the things you're finding that aren't plants rocks, or other animals, we made those! From aluminum foil to (some random word), diapers to dioxin! Our clever brains and agile hands conspired to manufacture things to make our lives more bearable. Early man lovingly handcreafted these items with care, skill, and soul. Luckily mass production came to end all that."

    I know that earlier he said some negative shit about the USSR, but I feel he's so close to understanding the struggle and history.

    Not to mention the complete anti-capitalism in the entire commerce section. The only actual 'critique' of Marxism ever offered was against Marx's suggestion that revolution is inevitable because 'it's been 140 years'. The rest is easily a commonplace representation of the USSR and I really don't care if he makes fun of that country. Past is past, so ultimately, I haven't heard much Anti-Communism from Jon yet. Anti-Soviet? Likely.

    I'd hope he'd give up everything for the revolution.
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    I just downloaded the audiobook (took 3 minutes) and just started listening to it. I enjoy Jon Stewart, and so far I've found the whole book hilarious. I haven't got to the 'evils of Communism' part yet... But when he says stuff like in the chapter 'Earth' at the 12:30 part, I feel he understands that this is exploitation, and that he's likely reasonable and sane enough to one day actually understand communism.

    I could be totally fooled by him, lol, but I hope I'm not. He's fun.

    Edit: In 'Commerce' of the audiobook, at the 10:54 mark, Jon says "All the things you're finding that aren't plants rocks, or other animals, we made those! From aluminum foil to (some random word), diapers to dioxin! Our clever brains and agile hands conspired to manufacture things to make our lives more bearable. Early man lovingly handcreafted these items with care, skill, and soul. Luckily mass production came to end all that."

    I know that earlier he said some negative shit about the USSR, but I feel he's so close to understanding the struggle and history.

    Not to mention the complete anti-capitalism in the entire commerce section. The only actual 'critique' of Marxism ever offered was against Marx's suggestion that revolution is inevitable because 'it's been 140 years'. The rest is easily a commonplace representation of the USSR and I really don't care if he makes fun of that country. Past is past, so ultimately, I haven't heard much Anti-Communism from Jon yet. Anti-Soviet? Likely.

    I'd hope he'd give up everything for the revolution.
    Don't be so diluted, man. Just because he's anti-communist, doesn't mean we can't enjoy him. But let's not fool ourselves. John Stewart is not pro-communism, which makes him anti-communism. At best, he is a reformist, which means he thinks capitalism can be regulated into being more humane. However, John Stewart has never made a critique of capitalism so as to imply a different system. I haven't read the book or anything, but I've been watching The Daily Show since the Craig Kilborne days, and MTV since before then. I know what those people stand for.
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