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    I understand the international movement that encompasses all of the Trotskyist groups (in Germany and Britain known as Wrokers Power), has become the 5th International.

    Why have they done this and what is the difference (methodlogically and ideologically) between the various 4th internationals and the 5th International?
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    I thought the 4th international was formed by Trotsky. But then again I thought it was mostly found in South-East Asia.
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    There are now many 4th internationals. So many splits have occured.

    But this is new development as the 5th International claim to be Trotskyist and have formed a new international.
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    As I understood the only difference is in the number. The Fourth Internationale fell because of organization problems, not ideological causes. So most of Trotzkyst organizations say we need to build again the Fourth Internationale and this organization say we need to buld a new one, the Fifth Internationale, with the same ideology. The difference is in the name, not in the ideollogy.
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    Thanks il-Commy!
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    The more crappy International's we have the better, revolutions have historically occured after the collapse, disbandment or the degradation of an International, (2nd int - 1917, 3rd int- post WW2 Eastern Europe, 1949 China). More disfunctional and crumbling International's means more revolutions!!


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    I&#39;ve been to the 5th International in England site.

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    We can then expect the fifth international...Faction A, B, C, D, E, AA, AB, AC, AD, AE, BA and finally BB.
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    Comrade RAF, what about faction ZZ???

    I can see in the near future a 55th International.
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    Trotsky faction ZZ.Headed by Billy Gibbons.
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    Long live the 75th International
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