Religion in a communist society

[Robocommie]

All up in that anti-intellectualism

[Queercommie Girl]

Because they all lack a dimension of material analysis. For ex: blaming religion for conflicts based on resources and the will of capital. Most militant atheists of the Dawkins/Hitchens stripe probably aren't Marxists for the simple fact that they've basically discarded any sort of Base-Superstructure analysis, instead focusing on a sort of strange idealism and Dawkins going on about "poisonous memes" and other bullshit.

Most of them are also basically fronts for racist, anti-Islamic scaretalk.

Intellectually Marxists don't agree with Dawkins-style analysis of religion of course, but as I said before, as a Marxist I'm certainly not going to spend time actually defending religion from people like Dawkins, including religions like Islam.

Marxism is neither anti-theism nor anti-anti-theism.

[Franz Fanonipants]

the book he's holding?

The Secret

[Franz Fanonipants]

Intellectually Marxists don't agree with Dawkins-style analysis of religion of course, but as I said before, as a Marxist I'm certainly not going to spend time actually defending religion from people like Dawkins, including religions like Islam.

Marxism is neither anti-theism nor anti-anti-theism.

Yeah, of course not. I wouldn't expect my comrades to defend my religious beliefs. I mean...I'd enjoy not being executed summarily for em, but I'm not expecting back up from you guys.

The problem is that most of Dawkin/Hitchen's criticisms do come from a severely non-Marxist place in terms of not taking a material criticism of Religion. i.e. Religion is constructed in response to material conditions. Rather, they see religion itself as causative in creating material conditions.

[Cijji Dubz]

snrkk

Not sure what this means.

E: Neopaganism - Way more intellectual than your summae theologica/rabbinical scholars/imams.

To say that my own religion tends to lack an anti-intellectual streak is not the same thing as to claim that it is intellectual. Merely that its adherents are not steered away from their own intellectual inquiries and directions.

The thoroughly intellectual traditions of the Catholicism and Talmudic studies were not very welcoming of independant intellectual inquiry and directions.

[Cijji Dubz]

Seems to me the Catholic Church was pretty damn anti-intellectual if your intellectual pursuits didn't lead you to the same conclusions as those of the Doctors of the Church. Same with the intellectual traditions of the other major religions. Orthodox Judaism, despite its incredible legal/logical Talmudic traditions is pretty damn anti-intellectual if you wished to study secular intellectual topics.

[Nikolay]

I don't think I'd ever give up my religion in a Socialist/Communist society. Just my opinion. IIRC, everyone has the right to practise any religion they want.

[Queercommie Girl]

Not sure what this means.

To say that my own religion tends to lack an anti-intellectual streak is not the same thing as to claim that it is intellectual. Merely that its adherents are not steered away from their own intellectual inquiries and directions.

The thoroughly intellectual traditions of the Catholicism and Talmudic studies were not very welcoming of independant intellectual inquiry and directions.

All religions are superstitious and irrational, but I'm more sympathetic to religions like Neo-Paganism relative to the great established religions of class society.