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    I dont' wanna read some trash saying he was like hitler blah blah blah.
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    Why? because the truth hurts?...
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    Hit it on the head, Dan.
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    Stalin should have done an auto biography. Ummm, what about titles??

    -50 million dead and still going strong
    -The Gulag and me
    -Uncle Joe - The Real Me
    -Man of Steel
    -How I won WWII single handedly
    -Stalin- A guide to paranoid schizophrenia
    -Lenin- Why he loved me like a son
    -Who&#39;s Marx?
    -I wonder what Marxists believe in?
    -Stalin-Me and Adolf

    Anyone got anymore
    Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.

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    I have Stalin&#39;s lesser known cook-book, which includes some sparse biographical information.
    It does include an excellent recipe for broiled children, however.
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    haha. Maybe you all should talk with Comrade RAF and be "converted" into doubting a little of that shit...
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    Originally posted by Rastafari@Aug 5 2003, 04:33 AM
    haha. Maybe you all should talk with Comrade RAF and be "converted" into doubting a little of that shit...
    No, he&#39;s a moron of the highest order.
    Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.

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    no way do i like stalin just didnt want to read some TOTALLY BIASED bio.the jokes were funny tho.but sadly true.
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    Don&#39;t think that biographers are all agents of the US government. I think you&#39;ll find that most are fair and objective. They do, after all, tell the story of a life, not judge the man.
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    true there is one insanely bias and basicly ficticious bio that i have read concerning communism,its actually on lenin.i believe its called "lenin-a new biograpgy".the best one is by robert service.its called"lenin-a biography".
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    Originally posted by YouKnowTheyMurderedX+Aug 5 2003, 02:19 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (YouKnowTheyMurderedX @ Aug 5 2003, 02:19 PM)
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    haha. Maybe you all should talk with Comrade RAF and be "converted" into doubting a little of that shit...
    No, he&#39;s a moron of the highest order. [/b]
    and how do we know your any better, brother?
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    Originally posted by Rastafari+Aug 6 2003, 03:47 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rastafari @ Aug 6 2003, 03:47 AM)
    Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2003, 02:19 PM
    Rastafari
    @Aug 5 2003, 04:33 AM
    haha. Maybe you all should talk with Comrade RAF and be "converted" into doubting a little of that shit...
    No, he&#39;s a moron of the highest order.
    and how do we know your any better, brother?
    If the only thing you can post is damning another member, then you have anything of insight to post? [/b]
    Not really. You suggested someone I could "learn" from, and I suggested an opinion on that member which is mines entirely and will not be changed. I hardly think this is evidence of the "only thing I can post". Whether I have anything of any insight to say is up to other people to decide obviously.
    Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.

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    Originally posted by antieverything@Aug 6 2003, 02:42 AM
    Don&#39;t think that biographers are all agents of the US government. I think you&#39;ll find that most are fair and objective. They do, after all, tell the story of a life, not judge the man.
    There are some biographiers who do tend to stray away from the truth and put in their own opinion, But I WOULD like to read a Stalin book as im sure it will give you a insight into what he was thinking, could be interesting.
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    Dude, just because RAF is a Stalinist does not mean he is an idiot. I don&#39;t give a shit if he followed Hitler, he&#39;s one of the most educated people on this board. Just because he has a different opinion of Stalin (right or wrong) does not mean he doesn&#39;t know his shit.

    Perhaps you should engage him in a debate instead of spewing out hollow insults, which is all I&#39;ve seen you do.

    By the way, Boy Sets Fire sucks. Those fucks preached for 5 minutes between EVERY song last time I saw them. I enjoy it, but they are just alienating and pissing off the people who don&#39;t care. They came to see a band, not get a lecture. Plus, their music is psuedo punk BULLSHIT.
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    speaking as a fellow, former musician, we only talk heavy in between sets when we need filler because we don&#39;t know that much&#33;
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    Ya, I was kind of just joking, but that really did piss the crowd off. I liked it, mostly because I don&#39;t like their music.
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    Originally posted by Urban Rubble@Aug 8 2003, 12:05 AM
    Dude, just because RAF is a Stalinist does not mean he is an idiot. I don&#39;t give a shit if he followed Hitler, he&#39;s one of the most educated people on this board. Just because he has a different opinion of Stalin (right or wrong) does not mean he doesn&#39;t know his shit.

    Perhaps you should engage him in a debate instead of spewing out hollow insults, which is all I&#39;ve seen you do.

    By the way, Boy Sets Fire sucks. Those fucks preached for 5 minutes between EVERY song last time I saw them. I enjoy it, but they are just alienating and pissing off the people who don&#39;t care. They came to see a band, not get a lecture. Plus, their music is psuedo punk BULLSHIT.
    Pseudo-punk? Haha.

    Comrade RAF may very well be the "Einstein of Stalinism" but that doesn&#39;t mean he&#39;s not full of shit. And anyway, I have had lots of arguments with him and he all he seems to do is wise crack and say "kid" alot. So I respond in kind, if you don&#39;t like it, please accept my full apologies but that&#39;s just tough.
    Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.

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    Maoist Internationalist Movement has two good pro-Stalin books. They&#39;re downloadable. Go to "FAQ" on their homepage, and then to "What about Stalin?". They have a link at the bottom.
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    Originally posted by YouKnowTheyMurderedX@Aug 4 2003, 03:25 PM
    Stalin should have done an auto biography. Ummm, what about titles??

    -50 million dead and still going strong
    -The Gulag and me
    -Uncle Joe - The Real Me
    -Man of Steel
    -How I won WWII single handedly
    -Stalin- A guide to paranoid schizophrenia
    -Lenin- Why he loved me like a son
    -Who&#39;s Marx?
    -I wonder what Marxists believe in?
    -Stalin-Me and Adolf

    Anyone got anymore
    Yup plenty Mr. X


    Stalin- I was really the second gunman on the grassy knoll"

    Stalin- "How I originated the idea of boy bands"

    J. V. Stalin- "1001 ways to cook your children"

    Josef Stalin speaks out; "How to properly sacrifice a virgin [preface by Anton Levay]"

    Stalin the unauthorised biography- "20 million pish&#33; Try 50 million&#33; I got you all duped&#33;

    Comrade Stalin; " If only I had more time for killing"

    Stalin&#39;s final words- "A delightful book of essays and poems on everything from mass graves to murder"

    Stalin- "Waiter, there&#39;s a baby in my soup&#33;" A collection of his most prized quips and maxims

    The wisdom of Stalin- Featuring "Give a man to fish he eats for a day; teach a man to mass-murder he eats for a lifetime"

    Stalin sings- Sung to "The Letter" by The Boxtops; "Give him a ticket on a gulag train, ain&#39;t worth the cash to put one in his brain, Lonely days are gone now his life is done, Lev Trotsky goes south of the border"

    Joseph Stalin- How to starve ukranians and still maintain that &#39;G. Q.&#39; image"

    Stalin and doodling- A book of Stalin&#39;s doodles entitled "I will doodle you to death"


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    I just had to add that last one.

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    Originally posted by COMRADE RAF+Aug 9 2003, 08:43 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (COMRADE RAF @ Aug 9 2003, 08:43 AM)
    YouKnowTheyMurderedX
    @Aug 4 2003, 03:25 PM
    Stalin should have done an auto biography. Ummm, what about titles??

    -50 million dead and still going strong
    -The Gulag and me
    -Uncle Joe - The Real Me
    -Man of Steel
    -How I won WWII single handedly
    -Stalin- A guide to paranoid schizophrenia
    -Lenin- Why he loved me like a son
    -Who&#39;s Marx?
    -I wonder what Marxists believe in?
    -Stalin-Me and Adolf

    Anyone got anymore
    Yup plenty Mr. X


    Stalin- I was really the second gunman on the grassy knoll"

    Stalin- "How I originated the idea of boy bands"

    J. V. Stalin- "1001 ways to cook your children"

    Josef Stalin speaks out; "How to properly sacrifice a virgin [preface by Anton Levay]"

    Stalin the unauthorised biography- "20 million pish&#33; Try 50 million&#33; I got you all duped&#33;

    Comrade Stalin; " If only I had more time for killing"

    Stalin&#39;s final words- "A delightful book of essays and poems on everything from mass graves to murder"

    Stalin- "Waiter, there&#39;s a baby in my soup&#33;" A collection of his most prized quips and maxims

    The wisdom of Stalin- Featuring "Give a man to fish he eats for a day; teach a man to mass-murder he eats for a lifetime"

    Stalin sings- Sung to "The Letter" by The Boxtops; "Give him a ticket on a gulag train, ain&#39;t worth the cash to put one in his brain, Lonely days are gone now his life is done, Lev Trotsky goes south of the border"

    Joseph Stalin- How to starve ukranians and still maintain that &#39;G. Q.&#39; image"

    Stalin and doodling- A book of Stalin&#39;s doodles entitled "I will doodle you to death"


    [/b]
    Good ones, RAF.
    Since, according to their fantasy, the relationships of men, all their doings, their chains and their limitations are products of their consciousness, the Young Hegelians logically put to men the moral postulate of exchanging their present consciousness for human, critical or egoistic consciousness, and thus of removing their limitations. This demand to change consciousness amounts to a demand to interpret reality in another way, i.e. to recognise it by means of another interpretation. The Young-Hegelian ideologists, in spite of their allegedly "world-shattering" statements, are the staunchest conservatives.

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