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    Its hard to say whether these guys are serious or if they're just obsessed with that ridiculous little bar. One article on that sight seems to imply that it is the product of anti-Chinese sentiment.

    There was a similiar incident in Taiwan where a dissilusioned student set up her own neo-Nazi group:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...azi-party.html
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    Its hard to say whether these guys are serious or if they're just obsessed with that ridiculous little bar. One article on that sight seems to imply that it is the product of anti-Chinese sentiment.

    There was a similiar incident in Taiwan where a dissilusioned student set up her own neo-Nazi group:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...azi-party.html
    They're not neo-nazis in the traditional sense; they don't hate everyone who isn't Mongolian, hell most of them don't even know what the Holocaust was I'm willing to bet, but they use it exemplify their hatred of Chinese people, due to the Chinese government's stranglehold on the Mongolian economy.
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    There are "skinheads" in China and other Asian countries also, so this shouldn't surprise anybody. But these pathetic noobs do seem more motivated and violent.

    They're not neo-nazis in the traditional sense; they don't hate everyone who isn't Mongolian, hell most of them don't even know what the Holocaust was I'm willing to bet, but they use it exemplify their hatred of Chinese people, due to the Chinese government's stranglehold on the Mongolian economy.
    Actually, they also hate Koreans, Vietnamese, and Russians and anyone else who "steal Mongolian women". Funny that you seem to defend everyone, even the Neo-Nazis, so long as they oppose the Chinese government.
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    I wonder what the other Neo-Nazi groups in North America and Europe would think of them.

    Are these guys just nationalists?
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    I actually went to Stormfront to see their reactions. Half the people mocked them for being posers.
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    Not meaning to be rude but what was the point of this thread?

    Obviously there are Mongolian neo-nazis, there are neo-nazis in every country, even Israel (yes, real neo-nazis in Israel, not exactly a big deal either). It's just warped perceptions of "they should know better because theyre not white", which is kind of small minded because all reactionary ideologies are based on.. reaction, which is not a formulated, sensible or scientific approach.
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    Nazi Israelis? Fuck, that's worse than Nazi Slavs.
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    they don't hate everyone who isn't Mongolian, hell most of them don't even know what the Holocaust was I'm willing to bet
    Uh, what?
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    The skinheads in China are super nationalistic and racist. I'm really not surprised that there are "neo-nazis" in other countries like that.
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    Obviously there are Mongolian neo-nazis, there are neo-nazis in every country, even Israel (yes, real neo-nazis in Israel, not exactly a big deal either).
    I have never heard of them in Turkey. Probably because Turkey has its own local version of fascism, which is very successful and makes the European neo-Nazi's look pretty much like a tea party.

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    Not meaning to be rude but what was the point of this thread?
    To promote discussion on Mongolian neo-nazis? *shrug*
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    At first I thought the idea of Neo-Nazism taking hold in Russia and Serbia was odd, but this really does take the cake. Having said that, I have an uncle in India who admires Hitler's patriotism, he also likes that Hitler brought "discipline" to Germany and opposed communism. So I guess it is possible for fascists all over the world to admire those aspects of Nazi Germany and for this reason identify with Nazism. The right-wing Hindu nationalists in India openly admire Hitler, that's no secret.
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    I have never heard of them in Turkey. Probably because Turkey has its own local version of fascism, which is very successful and makes the European neo-Nazi's look pretty much like a tea party.

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    Well you have to wonder why one of Turkish's fascist paramilitaries is named after some of Hitler's u-boats, grey wolves?
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    Well you have to wonder why one of Turkish's fascist paramilitaries is named after some of Hitler's u-boats, grey wolves?
    No, it is not. It is a completely different reference to Asena in Turkish mythology.

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    At first I thought the idea of Neo-Nazism taking hold in Russia and Serbia was odd, but this really does take the cake. Having said that, I have an uncle in India who admires Hitler's patriotism, he also likes that Hitler brought "discipline" to Germany and opposed communism. So I guess it is possible for fascists all over the world to admire those aspects of Nazi Germany and for this reason identify with Nazism. The right-wing Hindu nationalists in India openly admire Hitler, that's no secret.


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    No, it is not. It is a completely different reference to Asena in Turkish mythology.

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    OK, but anti semitism is not too uncommon in Turkey and especially after this years recent events I'm sure it has intensified. As a result, active right wing groups in Turkey are going to be even more anti semitic.
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    Yes, but they are not "neo-nazis" in any reasonable sense of the word.
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    At first I thought the idea of Neo-Nazism taking hold in Russia and Serbia was odd, but this really does take the cake. Having said that, I have an uncle in India who admires Hitler's patriotism, he also likes that Hitler brought "discipline" to Germany and opposed communism. So I guess it is possible for fascists all over the world to admire those aspects of Nazi Germany and for this reason identify with Nazism. The right-wing Hindu nationalists in India openly admire Hitler, that's no secret.
    Hardly surprising, Hitler is less hated in Asia and in Africa than in Europe and the western world, mostly because Hitler mostly wrought havoc in Europe. Due to that, as well as the brutalisation experienced by colonisation, third worlders in general tend to view Hitler as "another dictator" and not as some kind of demon lord with horns.

    Third worlders are often a lot more politically sophisticated and savvy than westerners and don't tend to mystifty politicians as much, mostly because politics in their countries in general have a more direct life'n'death meaning.

    Thus, Indians, Mongolians and Chinese when they read about Hitler doesn't necessarily conceptualise the same things that a westerner is reading in. They have experienced terrible massacres themselves, both pre-colonialism and post-colonialism, and thus don't tend to be as shocked by violence as a westerner.

    I would actually guess that if a dictator arose to power in the EU and the USA and did some really horrible things against his own population, things of the kind which the ARENA did in El Salvador or Idi Amin in Uganda, it would actually pretty fast make the population docile and obedient as sheep (with the exception of some rural communities and some immigrant groups).

    It is one thing to be taken into custody and beaten by police. It is an entirely other thing if the police gouges out one's eyes and rip off the arms and leave one on the street to bleed to death.
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    Actually, they also hate Koreans, Vietnamese, and Russians and anyone else who "steal Mongolian women". Funny that you seem to defend everyone, even the Neo-Nazis, so long as they oppose the Chinese government.
    Show me where I defended them, asswipe. I was just saying most of them aren't even Nazis. They just have strong hatred of the Chinese and besides, what Viets? there aren't any Viets in Mongolia.

    are you so nationalist you immediately assume I'm anti-PRC for speaking the facts?

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