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EDL claims they are coming to amsterdam, want to come too?
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still a long time away but include it in your holiday plans, people who want sleeping places etc contact me through PM
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The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
I'm not sure where I will be in October, but supposedly I'd be up for it. It's gonna be against Geert and EDL? Good thing, fighting two evils with one action.
Don't they often stop people from moving between countries in the EU during soccer games for convictions of hooliganism? Aren't most EDL members hooligans?
Put capitalism in a bag of rice.
yeah, but when its an political demonstration its harder to stop ppl thanks to the shengen agreement (unless your an lefty going to an important eu/wto/imf/etc-summit, then all civil rights go out the window offcourse)
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
So who are their "European brothers and sisters" in the Netherlands? In any case, they've got a hot reception awaiting them, that much is for certain.
What's the matter Lagerboy, afraid you might taste something?
I have been wondering the same, SIOE/SIAD (Denmark) springs to mind but im not sure who else they have worked with/intend to work with in europe.
Anyone else got any info?
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That only really applys when there are tournaments concerning specific teams that have a known casual element.
As far as im aware it doesnt mean they have a blanket ban on movement in the EU.
Aristotle's mind was so completely dominated by his economic environment that he was unable to conceive of a world in which there would be no chattel slaves, and so declared that slaves must always exist. A prophecy now falsified for hundreds of years.
- James Connolly
there was an SIOE netherlands (6 frustrated bloggers) but they disbanded after they found out the hardway that its impossible to organise an racist extreme right demonstration without extreme right racist activists showing up.
Wich triggerd in turn an good asskicking by some antifa.
so then the extreme right actvists where not welcome anymore to sioe demonstrations but since that was everybody who came to the demos that meant that no-one showed up anymore except the organisers.
at the last wilders support demo at the court building an oddball collection of experienced fascist/extreme nationalist activists combined with complete loonies from the blogosphere showed up.
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(you realy need to know dutch to apriciate the insanity of these people, they make teabaggers look sane)
i guess it will be the same with this demo, the batshit crazys from the "friends of pim fortuijn" and the blogospere and assorted actvists from fascist/extreme right groups (but without the backing of their organisations because of wilders pro-isreal position and his hostility towards the "traditional" extreme right)
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
There is a handful of dutch edl supporters trying to set up shop, whats the deal with firms there? Any chance some will get on board?
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dont think so, none of the big firms tolerate open racism, there are some nazi's who are tolerated within certain stadiums but they are an extreme minority who keep their mouth well shut and besides they despise wilders for being pro israel.
of the big firms outside the ajax f-side/vak410 none will want anything to do with israel flag waving firms, exclusivly on the fact that its an symbol asociated with the ajax hardcore. And while some of the ajax crowd might be voting wilders they are ethnicly to mixed to actualy go out an support an EDL demo, last time an racist/extreme right demo was attempted in amsterdam the f-side gave the fash an good hiding.
besides, if large groups of chelsea or rangers fans show up the F-side will might as well pick our side again because chelsea and rangers are associated with Fijenoord.
only from fijenoord and ADO den haag i would expect maybe a few supporters, just because of their old friendships with formentioned firms and because any chance to kick it off in amsterdam is an good one.
but i dont see this taking of in any big way. a few dipshits will come to the demo, most wil be preventivly be arrested or send back for their own safety.
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
besides; wilders knows damn well better to not have demonstrations.
he avoided them until now because he knows that kind of stuff is too dangerous/unpredictable/uncontrollable for him.
wilders prefers to be in this bubble of exsisting only in the media and making statements (not discussions) in parliament.
so he might as well request the edl to stay the fuck away and dont threaten his underdog image he so carefully tries to construct.
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
Well, that's what they'd have you believe.
The video also includes this English lady who apparently came over to Amsterdam just for this. Maybe the EDL contingent will also be full of old ladies.
EDIT: actually, upon closer review, she sounds more American, but I'm not certain.
What's the matter Lagerboy, afraid you might taste something?
my guess is american
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
the EDL is bigger than the original football hooligans now unfortunatly.
im seeing people i used to go school with, who aint football hooligans, on facebook posting EDL shit
With the EDL's increasing anti union/leftist tirades it might be wise to ditch them from your friends list, especially if there is anything to indicate your political persuasions on there.im seeing people i used to go school with, who aint football hooligans, on facebook posting EDL shit
Excuse my spellign
American judging by the accent. Part of me wants to add that only Americans are so reliably crazy but I know that this is unfortunately not true
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A handfull of Dutch EDL supporters. The national-socialist crowd (NSA,NVU,B&H,C18,RVF) won't support them since they consider the EDL zionist.
If there's going to be any support from the far-right it's most likely Voorpost and the odd far-right blogger or rent-a-fascist demo-hopper.
As for the firms, I doubt there's going to be a lot of support for this, inter-firm rivalry is far too prominent and whilst the PVV will most certainly have some support amongst them a lot of football hooligans are targeted by the PVV and Geert Wilders as well with his 'tough on crime and disorder' policies, once even calling for public kneecapping of 'Marrocan riot-youth, Squatters, Football hooligans and anti-globalists' by the police and army.
"Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree..."
- John Milton -
"The place of the worst barbarism is that modern forest that makes use of us, this forest of chimneys and bayonets, machines and weapons, of strange inanimate beasts that feed on human flesh"
- Amadeo Bordiga
now now, ben van der kooi cant help it that no'one wants to stay friends with him...
The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. What matter where, if I be still the same, And what I should be, all but less than he Whom thunder hath made greater?
Here at least We shall be free
Haha, it's funny how everyone knows who you mean by simply saying 'rent-a-fascist'
Considering he's been active with SIOE and he was present at the Wilders support demo, I wouldn't be too surprised if he came around to take a peek.
Then again, he's been active with just about every far-right organisation, both as an activist AND as a police informer
"Of Man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree..."
- John Milton -
"The place of the worst barbarism is that modern forest that makes use of us, this forest of chimneys and bayonets, machines and weapons, of strange inanimate beasts that feed on human flesh"
- Amadeo Bordiga
