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My family would be considered upper middle class, and haven't had to struggle much economically (a bit of struggle right after we immigrated). I have however faced thorough inequality in the hands of the government and corporations, ergo communist.
Also, I'm not male. Your "everyone is male" type observations might result from society generally saying that women shouldn't involve their pretty little heads in something like politics. Also its the internet, so us technologically inept females can't hop online to make our presence known.
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I apologize for nothing. - Hedonism Bot
Outside of a dog, a book is man’s best friend. Inside of a dog it’s too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
I do not believe in god. I believe in cashmere. - Fran Lebowitz
Ancora imparo. I am still learning. - Michelangelo, age 87
I guess as a wannabe artist i'm classed as petit-bourgeoisie, because i own capital which i use to produce. But im as broke as can be so idk.
Maybe party uniforms would be an idea. When the Party marches into a town, it should look like a military occupation is on the way.
-Azula
^for proof all leftists are just roleplaying
Is your teacher teach in a university. I'm curious are people over Belgium open-minded to left wing ideas. Over here in U.S some school being accuse of spreading communism because they teach Mandarin.
As long as you do not exploit anyone, you're good.
I'm self employed and do not consider myself a hypocrite because of it.
"Ideas do not need weapons, if they can convince the great masses." - Fidel Castro
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I am working class and I have never know of middle or upper class revolutionaries. I suppose it is not within their interests/they haven't been exposed to the conditions that influence revolutionary thought.
I have and, still do, know middle-class progressive liberals and social democrats though.
I'm the Laird of the land, I'm hot like Pol Pot.'A true white liberal.' - Sword and Shield (on me)
'i am a communism fer a long years.' - twenty percent tip
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I bet no one in the U.S. believes or takes that accusation seriously...
they wouldn't, not even in Florida.
I'm thinking if I'm self-employed. I'm both owner and worker so I'm ~ the worker in fact control the mean of production.
I'm a libertarian socialist and I am middle class, do I count?
My situation with regards to weath is an odd one. I was raised very poor for my childhood, my mother was a single parent with very little money and was studying at university, so I kind of grew up with a working-class income, but in my teens my mother married a man who comes from quite a rich family and suddenly overnight we had money. It was very strange, but I suppose I am kind of middle-middle class if that makes sense.
Also with regards to personal wealth, I have a trust fund in my name with is invested in the stock market (which makes me feel quite a hypocrite sometimes, despite the fact that this investment was my step-father's idea). However, the money isn't technically under my control yet, so its sort of hypothetical, imaginary money right now.
The first one to fall asleep when the revolution comes.
It's a unhelpful to think of class in purely sociological terms. In the UK people are concious of class divisions, but more often than not 'class' is turned into this concept decided on how you pronounce 'h', or what your favourite clothing brand is. The other predominant class determinant is income, which is also flawed. As such, you have plenty of people who are in economic terms working class going 'oh, I earn x amount of money and live in a certain location, so I'm upper-lower middle class*'.
*yeah, people use that sort of terminology.
Until now, the left has only managed capital in various ways; the point, however, is to destroy it.
Warren Beatty (Hollywood actor and director) once claimed that he "isn't a Communist or Socialist, but is a class traitor" (to the ruling class) and is quite influenced by Marxism. Just look at the film Reds which portrays the Russian Revolution in quite a positive light (there's a story that he even lectured the Russian background workers [or extras] about exploitation, and they decided to ask for higher wages or they wouldn't continue to work on the film or something along those lines).
The class composition of the Communist movement tends to be predominately working class, although not exclusively. Many people from "middle class" backgrounds tends to become revolutionaries (you see this a lot within the Anarchist movement for example). That doesn't necessarily make them hypocrites as long as they are actively trying to achieve socialism.
Like was was brought up a few times before: Engels, who through his capitalist families wealth directly helped Marx out in writing Capital.
So the exploitation of the workers that Engels family hired went directly to funding the most in depth critique of Capitalism written.
Other examples some people point out are Lenin not being directly from the working class, yet helping advance the working class movement quite a bit. etc. etc.
Also there's no shortage of intellectual Leftists out there who work in universities and the like. But while they certainly aren't traditional "working class" their contributions to theory and understanding of what's going on in the world is quite valuable (thus helping to move towards a better strategy)
Oh lucky you... My early life is nearly same as you but with a single mom with 3 kids. Without the nice step-father and family. He and his family and cousins are awful.My situation with regards to weath is an odd one. I was raised very poor for my childhood, my mother was a single parent with very little money and was studying at university, so I kind of grew up with a working-class income, but in my teens my mother married a man who comes from quite a rich family and suddenly overnight we had money. It was very strange, but I suppose I am kind of middle-middle class if that makes sense.
Also with regards to personal wealth, I have a trust fund in my name with is invested in the stock market (which makes me feel quite a hypocrite sometimes, despite the fact that this investment was my step-father's idea). However, the money isn't technically under my control yet, so its sort of hypothetical, imaginary money right now.
I hear Guantanamo got health care!
Where did you immigrated from?
Hmm, well at my dad's I am poor (I have constantly shared my bedroom/living room with either my dad or sister) and at my mom's I am lower middle class but a lot of luxuries here (ah the glories of debt), so no not rich.
America is just the country that shows how all the written guarantees in the world for freedom are no protection against tyranny and oppression of the worst kind. There the politician has come to be looked upon as the very scum of society. - Peter Kropotkin
I grew up desperately poor and had a pretty bad childhood. to this day I have a bad complex with rich people, where I could like them one moment, but instantly start hating them if I find out they're wealthy or privileged, once or twice, to the point of violent encounter. For a while, I even dabbled in Pol Potist ideology because I had such a fantasy of watching rich people "get what they deserved". but then I realized that wasn't right and grew up.
it's not a good thing at all and am trying to control it, I guess I just am envious maybe, but at the same time, I never want that much wealth ever; I just hate how some people are allowed to be more well off than others, where my father had a recognized degree in agricultural science back in "the old country", now his degree means nothing, and he has remained mostly on welfare.
In europe people arent really scared of communism as to the degree of being
kinda paranoia
But imo I think almost all the history teachers here are marxist or have socialist
sympathies. (speaking of my own experiences here, probably not all of them are
pro-commie though)
I guess they know what communism really is( I believe its in their education as
history teacher)
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.21
I am probably what they call lower middle class but only very luckily, my family is from a working class background and even through my lifetime was still working class. Of course this is in sociological terms essentially, really they still belong to the working class using proper analysis.
"Direct Action is a notion of such clarity, of such self-evident transparency, that merely to speak the words defines and explains them. It means that the working class, in constant rebellion against the existing state of affairs, expects nothing from outside people, powers or forces, but rather creates its own conditions of struggle and looks to itself for its means of action. It means that, against the existing society which recognises only the citizen, rises the producer. And that that producer, having grasped that any social grouping models itself upon its system of production, intends to attack directly the capitalist mode of production in order to transform it, by eliminating the employer and thereby achieving sovereignty in the workshop – the essential condition for the enjoyment of real freedom.” Emile Pouget
Average working class here, nothing more ore less.
"You know what capitalism is? Getting fucked!" - Tony Montana, Scarface.
You from Russia right? Does your father makes more money back in days in USSR (Are he happen to be old enough to live in the USSR?) ?
To put it bluntly... they will.
We've got your war!
We're at the gates!
We're at your door!
We've got the guillotine...
