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Let's Get Physical...
The Implementation of a No Platform policy will invariably involve physical confrontations with the fascists. In this issue Fighting Talks Sid Martell explores the politics of the pavement...
"AFA is committed to fighting fascism both physically and ideologically. We are not fighting Fascism to maintain the status-quo but to defend the interests of the working class"
point 1.4 London AFA constitution
Many people beside the state are opposed to AFA's policy of physical confrontation, these range from the fascist's (the especially don't like it), the liberal "state ban" wing of the movement (Searchlight ect..), all the way to so called revolutionary organisations like the SWP (see the last issue of FT, they might pay lip service to "talking on the fascists", in reality they can't Implement a No Platform policy and they need the police to function. So , what with all this opposition, is AFA merely being obstinate? Are we just isolated thugs? Or are we principled militant antifascists?
Firstly let's get a few things straight. Anti-Fascist Action is not a terrorist or military organisation, neither are we just a group of thugs who simply enjoy a good row. AFA is a broad organisation made up of working-class people who are serious about combating fascism. fighting fascism demands a lot from those who undertake it seriously, the risks are high, the hours are long and mostly spent getting bored - waiting for something to happen, and it doesn't earn you a living. As any committed militant in any struggle will tell you that goes with the territory, nobody asks for pat on the back, you just get on with it. What's to large extent unbelievable, and yet at the same time so predictable , is that as well as this there are characters within the movement, whose courage and integrity are questionable to say the least, who seem to spend more time slagging off the militants than they do making the minimal (and often detrimental) impact that they do on the fascists.
AFA started when everybody else dropped anti fascism, the real problem of course, being the Tories!? Now that the rest of them have come back on the scene they find that we've not been away, our rag-tag band of directionless cut-throats and thugs managing to stay the distance while the rest of them chose complacency and denial of their own ineptitude. as well as this they also find that while they run around chasing their tails and getting nowhere, AFA continues to pop up now and again to remind the fascists that there will always be two sides of the opposition to them.
Throughout this century it seems that anti-fascist militants have had to put up with unwholesome elements at their backs. During Franco's dictatorship after the Spanish civil war, the words of anarchist anti fascist guerillas (who were making "substantial withdrawals" from various financial institutions on behalf of the resistance movement) have a familiar ring...
"Yet some of our so called comrades attempted to defame our conduct in this matter - calling us robbers, bandits, criminals in exactly the same way as our fascist enemies. They do so to justify themselves to our movement for their own cowardice inactivity."
Even within AFA there have been times when certain elements have called for more "political" campaigning: when pressed, more " political" campaigning basically means "non-violent" protest type campaigning a la ANL. AFA has outlined many times that it has a "twin-track" policy of both ideological and physical confrontation, what this article aims to make clear is that both parts of our strategy are indeed political. Both are of equal importance, and the balance between them constantly and consistently maintained.
A classic cliché used by all manner of characters, from magistrates to "revolutionary's", is to confront them physically you are "Just as bad as the fascists". Anti-fascist militants have had this thrown at them since fascism began, the equation being; if you meet violence with violence, then you become what you hat. This oddly Christian moralization (odd because easily as many people have been killed in the name of Christ, as Mussolini or Hitler) is not just misguided, it's thoroughly out of order. Fascists employ violence as a means to an end. they are not violence personified; to be violent is not to be fascist. it is what lies behind that violence; virulent hatred of the working class and it's aspirations, that gives fascism it's character.
The aim of fascism is to amplify the violence already inherent in the state; the violence of the police, Immigration officials, the army ect. being just a tea party to what the fascists would have them do. It is obvious that if working class people are to defend themselves and their interests, they must react in accordance with this threat. therefore an act of aggression against the fascists must be seen as an act of defence of the working class, and as such be a political act.
The argument that anything other than pure self-defence (for instance defence against attack by an ethnic community) is mindless petty violence with no political motivation holds about as much water as a sieve. The formidable increase in state terror that would arise from a fascist dictatorship is justification enough for the eradication of fascism. The power of the fascists is the big right hander, the knock out punch. it's already a question of them or us, the war has already begun.
It's interesting here to note just who is saying what as regards this question. the vast majority of anti fascists are working-class, not just for the wider abstract reasons outlines above but because they bear the first brunt of the onslaught of fascism, and in the long term they will suffer the worst casualties. If someone in a pub full of local fascists declares themselves an anti-fascist, there won't be much time for formal debate and dissection of analysis. Working class people don't baulk at violence, they are not so conditioned to reject personal political violence while condoning the institutionalised violence as the middle classes are. It is obvious then that while the middle class orientated wing of the movement call for the police to deal with the "criminal fascist element". people on the street are forced to deal with it themselves.
It is the organisation of the militant working-class resistance to fascism that is the task that AFA has set itself. All of the moves made by AFA are dictated by this aim. The direction of the organisation is orientated by discussion of the militants on the ground, there is no military hierarchy governing the politics of the organisation, rather the politics control all AFA stewarding activities. The stewards are at all times answerable to the rest of the organisation, their role is to carry out the wishes of the membership. It is the people active in AFA who define this, it is the militants on the ground who argue for political discipline. We would argue against a purely street outfit, not because we are against "street activity", but because it has no meaning. There are many historical examples to draw from the IPLO in Ireland to renegade Zapatistas in the Mexican revolutions.
If you carry out tactics of an "illegal nature" nature then you are bound to attract those who simply wish to get involved on that end of affairs, who are not political. It is up to the movement to either educate or reject those elements, and only the backing and guidance of the wider movement can define where the line is drawn, were acts degenerate to the socially criminal rather than the political. It is only when the politics are let go that things are reduced to pure factionalism and criminality, that has never and will never be the case with AFA. All those who have made claims along these lines are either enemies of militant anti-fascism, or the sort of play-pretend "leaders" who get their fingers burnt when they play with fire.
The need for discipline and organisation then is paramount to us, one because it makes us accountable to ourselves and the movement, and secondly becuase it makes more effective force on the street and in the political arena. There have been times when elements attracted to AFA seem to feel that these things can be dispensed wit, those that espouse the anti-fascism of the cider bottle and the wildebeest. While not denying anybody's right to oppose fascism, there is no place within the AFA. It must be made clear, AFA wins, there aren't any prizes for second place. Without coordination, without experience and back up, little groups marching off here and there will ultimately come a cropper. This is not a game, the fascists mean it, and what has kept AFA effective is that we mean it too.
It's Ironic really, that many who have been slagged off the physical element of AFA,have at the same time come begging for protection when there's that they themselves might be attacked by the fascists. AFA has learnt alot from this, smiles the one day vilification the next. It has also learnt that being some sort of token police force for the "left", has gained us nothing but their subsequent whining afterwards. Or even during, there have been a few occasions when an AFA stewarding outfit has actually had to "steward", only to meet shock horror from those who most definitely would have been on the receiving end of it from the fascists if we hadn't been there.
Our job is beating the fascists on our terms. our stewards are only jeopardised by our activities, or the ones we sponsor. What many on the "left" don't realise is that the physical victories of the fascists are worth more than ours because they are in the ascendancy. They are on the offensive while the left stares up it's own backside wondering what day it is. Any victory that we give them on the street is a body blow for us, if we are to be defeated then we'll go down fighting for something to fight for, not for liberals and cowards who can't hold their hands up.
But again that's no to say that we won't work with anyone else, we have stressed time and time again that unity is made around activity, not verbal niceties. If anybody who adopts the same stance as us, who works in the same arena as us isn't working alongside us, then could they just let us know? The point has to be made, AFA has a job to do, it hasn't the time or the resources to argue the toss about "united fronts" and such like. Let's face it that isn't just fiddling while Rome burns, it's setting up the whole orchestra and giving the audience boxes of matches.
It seems that the calls for unity tend to be made most vociferously by those who when they had a chance to make some sort of impact, I.e; when they were in AFA, chose to abandon that and now wander in the wilderness calling for "committees" around this and "Unity" around that because It's the only chance they'll get to prove how "wadical" they are by talking a load of nonsense. They now find they're in a position where far from "making No Platform mean No Platform" they are effectively more unable to deliver that than they ever were! It's not saying It, It's doing it that counts. AFA continues to do it .
Physical confrontation is not only necessary, but from a propaganda point of view it's indispensable: Waterloo was a straight go, and an immediate success. It shows people what can be done, and what has to be done if fascism is to be beaten back. AFA victories in the North, in Scotland and in the Midlands are a direct result of the commitment to a physical presence put in by AFA militants, the ceaseless work of individuals and groups gaining results that no amount of lollipops and petitions will ever bring. AFA's work against the recent "Ian Stuart memorial gig" made sure that it didn't go ahead, that C18's "security" was turned on it's head "Charlie Sargeant and "mad" Phil Edwards both making early birds for the "shit-house of the year" award), and we still managed not get battered by the MET (unlike both the ANL and C18, the latter getting serious seeing to in a pub outside Waterloo, looked bloody nasty from where we were standing...).
AFA, despite all it's enemies, continues to go from strength to strength. We've proved time and again that only by militant action will the fascists be put down, and despite all the efforts of the establishment, the fascists, and the liberals, we're still in the game. Time will tell what happens with the ANL. YRE etc... we're not asking anything of them, what's important to us is that AFA remain viable outfit, and that it holds to it's tradition. Remember, though we've said it before, a physical commitment by us doesn't require every individual in the organisation to be super fit street-fighter. what we do want is people who agree with our policy, and who will work towards it's implementation in the capacity best suited for them. Genuine anti-fascist militants should join AFA, and militants from other outfits should work with us on the day. True unity, Unity in action is the only "unity" AFA calls for. A commitment to that is what earns AFA's respect, and it's the only thing that does.
It took me six hours to type this outIt's not my original work I got it from a leaflet called: Beating fascism Anarchist anti fascism in theory and practise.
http://akpress.com/2006/items/beatin...istantifascism <------buy it here
if i have repeated sentences or had bad spelling just post and ill change it.bearing in mind I've got dyspraxia.
Last edited by LebenIstKrieg; 1st July 2010 at 20:21.
AFA don't exist any more do they?It took me six hours to type this out
http://akpress.com/2006/items/beatin...istantifascism <------buy it here
if i have repeated sentences or had bad spelling just post and ill change it.
what are antifa doing these days?
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I completely agree I've got alot of mates who are ready for a row with the EDL there presence seems to be getting stronger in the football stadiums. I saw the guy with EDL tattooed on his head.
Organise in person then and don't out yourself online?
ANTIFA are currently working a lot with football firms. As you know the EDL was born out of football hooligan firms, therefore ANTIFA are establishing direct opposition to the EDL within football. Most notably the Cardiff Independent ANTIFA, which you could find on Facebook after a quick search (forum won't allow me to post links until I reach 25 posts).
Although it's looking quite quiet here in South Wales as the WDL (Welsh Defence League) are keeping their heads pretty low after what happened in Cardiff on the 5th of June.
I don't think Scotland and Wales are a problem. You should be working primarly with english firms. That's from where they recruit mostly.
Yea, I'm aware of this, but the threat of fascism and fascist ideology is growing through out Wales, especially in the Valley areas and within the ranks of Cardiff City FC and Swansea FC's hooligan firms. There are a number of C18 veterans currently involved with these hooligan firms, so it's important that there is a ANTIFA stand here. But yes, I agree, England is where they recruit the most and that's where ANTIFA and organisations like it need to be mobilising against the fascists even more so.
An interesting point is that there never seems to be any demonstrations by any of the militant anti-fascist organisations here in the UK that is organised just to spread OUR message. It seems that the only time we come out of the woodwork is when we're conducting counter-demo's, I feel this needs to be changed. If the EDL are holding their own demo's, we should hold ours too.
Perhaps because a demo composed of militant antifascists is fucking stupid in regards to security. The actions partaken by militant antifascists arter obviously sometimes illegal, why let the cops get photos and make nickings?
Many antis are anarchists or some variety of leftist, meaning that they have other projects to be operating against the root problems, other than merely reacting to fascists and the likes of the EDL.
Mirroring the EDL is not the way to counter them.
That AFA article is well out of date.
If you think that militant antifascism equates to EDL tactics, then you're pretty ignorant to the subject.
The article is outdated. AND I agree with you about the stupidity of holding a shouty-match demo against EDL at a town of afa's choosing.
I don't say that militant afa today equates to EDL tactics.
However, LebenIstKrieg appears to be mirroing EDL
Whereas YOU have hit the nail on the head here:Originally Posted by LebenIsKrieg
Originally Posted by Eidelweiss
Last edited by Luther Blissett; 7th July 2010 at 11:04. Reason: sorry! - i did not differentiate between afa (historical) and antifa (current)
Luther, AFA haven't existed since the late 90s.. Antifa popped up about 5 years after AFA called it a day.
There's an inner thing in every man,
Do you know this thing my friend?
It has withstood the blows of a million years,
And will do so to the end...
...It is 'the undauntable thought', my friend,
That thought that says 'I'm right!
Cheers for sorting my confused terminology out.
I'll say 'antifa' for today, and 'afa' for yesterday, shall I?
Yeah.. Antifa (as is well known I guess) contains a few ex AFA, but AFA certainly would not want AFA using their name and Antifa was set up with much more of an anarchist lean (AFA was more of a broad front, but with a lean towards marxists).
There's an inner thing in every man,
Do you know this thing my friend?
It has withstood the blows of a million years,
And will do so to the end...
...It is 'the undauntable thought', my friend,
That thought that says 'I'm right!
AFA certainly aren't as big as they used to be, but AFA firms are still around such as the Irish AFA (since '92) and the recently launched Manchester AFA.
Er AFA (the organisation) do NOT EXIST anymore...? BELIVE ME on this?
However some of their members are still involved in direct action and a lot are still involved in community action.
Last edited by No pasarán; 7th July 2010 at 19:41.
There's an inner thing in every man,
Do you know this thing my friend?
It has withstood the blows of a million years,
And will do so to the end...
...It is 'the undauntable thought', my friend,
That thought that says 'I'm right!
Pardon my ignorance, comrade. I thought you meant AFA was extinct all together. Granted the organisation do not exist anymore, but there are still some firms around.
